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rootbear75

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Nintendo Wii vs the PS3  

32 members have voted

  1. 1. Did you get a Nintendo Wii on launch day?

    • Yes
      5
    • No
      17
    • I didn't want one.
      8

  2. 2. Did you get a PS3 on launch day?

    • Yes
      3
    • No
      19
    • I didn't want one.
      8

  3. 3. Which do you think is going to do better?

    • Nintendo Wii
      14
    • Sony PS3
      16

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rootbear75 Newbie

rootbear75

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I got a Wii yesterday morning. Stood outside Best Buy at around 5:40am. They handed out vouchers at 8:00 and opened doors at 9.

i was #95/102 on the unofficial list.

 

omg, it is soooo much fun. im going to post some pictures later

Dav Newbie

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PS3 is so much more powerful.

 

The wii controller is a good idea but considering the best idea they came up with for the DS is stroking a virtual dog i dont have much faith in it.

SD>Big Newbie

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CPU

The Xbox 360 processor was designed to give game developers the power that they actually need, in an easy to use form. The Cell processor has impressive streaming floating-point power that is of limited use for games.

 

The majority of game code is a mixture of integer, floating-point, and vector math, with lots of branches and random memory accesses. This code is best handled by a general purpose CPU with a cache, branch predictor, and vector unit.

 

The Cell's seven DSPs (what Sony calls SPEs) have no cache, no direct access to memory, no branch predictor, and a different instruction set from the PS3's main CPU. They are not designed for or efficient at general purpose computing. DSPs are not appropriate for game programming.

 

Xbox 360 has three general purpose CPU cores. The Cell processor has only one.

 

Xbox 360's CPUs has vector processing power on each CPU core. Each Xbox 360 core has 128 vector registers per hardware thread, with a dot product instruction, and a shared 1-MB L2 cache. The Cell processor's vector processing power is mostly on the seven DSPs.

 

Dot products are critical to games because they are used in 3D math to calculate vector lengths, projections, transformations, and more. The Xbox 360 CPU has a dot product instruction, where other CPUs such as Cell must emulate dot product using multiple instructions.

 

Cell's streaming floating-point work is done on its seven DSP processors. Since geometry processing is moved to the GPU, the need for streaming floating-point work and other DSP style programming in games has dropped dramatically.

 

Just like with the PS2's Emotion Engine, with its missing L2 cache, the Cell is designed for a type of game programming that accounts for a minor percentage of processing time.

 

 

http://www.itvidya.com/playstation_3_vs_xbox_360

 

 

 

@Dav: as for the ds stylus.. you obviously haven't played any of the mario minigames! as well watchout for the new zelda coming out on it.

 

 

 

once you get a wii-mote in your hand, it just feels right.

Aileron Newbie

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I thought I started a topic like this last week. Well, sorry people, but I have some serious ranting that needs to be done:

 

I don't have that much money to spend. Sure I'm American and thus my income is still in the top 10% of the world, but I simply can't afford to spend a hundred or so dollars on a video game system, so I usually like to stay a few years out of date. I only got a GameCube a month ago.

 

This makes me favor Nintendo products because of their policy of low prices, attracting new gamers, and keeping games non-violent. But, as I was browsing for GameCube games in the store last week, I wsa dissappointed.

 

"Cheap, Attracts Newbs, and non-violent" does not necessarily mean "sucks !@#$%^&*". I mean, back in the old skool days when technology was limited, virtually all the games were like that. Pac-Man, Pong, Frogger, Missile Command, Asteroids and Tetris were all good at attracting new players and were all pretty non-violent. (Infact, Tetris and Bakliava are the only things Middle Eastern and non-violent that I can think of.)

 

Couple this with the fact that there was not a G-rated movie produced in the GameCube times that didn't have a GameCube game for it. What the heck? Its like an unwritten rule that all video games based upon movies suck and all movies based upon video games also suck. The only exception I can think of was GoldenEye. To base your product line on movie games is a recipe for disaster, especially if the movie the game is based upon ALSO sucked, which sadly is the typical case today.

 

But Nintendo isn't the only company that suffers from a lack of creative juices. Its amazing that the only genre you can buy for the PC is Roleplaying Games, and the only thing you can buy for the console is first person shooters.

 

I've had my fill of so-called "roleplaying" games. Doesn't the name imply that you should be playing some sort of role? The only role they ever have you play is that of a homicidal monster-killing "adventurer" trying to increase his or her stats. If that's the objective why not call them "stats-building" games? And while building stats is addictive, there is little point. When playing an rpg, you aren't getting any better at it, your character is getting better. In your typical RPG you could take the most experienced player in the world, have him start with a new character and he'd still get his !@#$%^&* kicked by any newb who has a mid-level character.

 

First person shooters are tiresome too. Don't get me wrong, its a pretty solid genre, but people should be able to avoid them if they wish. Especially the World War II shooters. How many games are there going to be about World War II? And when so why is it always the European front? If I recall in WWII there was a front in the Pacific too, as well as fronts in Russia, Africa and Italy. But even if its not about WWII, the 1st person shooter is really designed because video game makers can't come up with any new ideas and instead when they are given SOOOOO much graphics and memory to work with, they decide to make what is essentially a modernized version of Wolfenstein over and over and over again.

 

As much as modern technology has improved video games, it has hurt them too. Gamemakers spend all their time trying to create the best graphical experience and not worrying enough about making a better game though to be fair there still are a few good ones that pop up once in a while. In lieu of origional ideas, how about showing a little balance in the old ideas?

 

Whatever happened to the space-fighter genre? I haven't seen a big name one of those since Descent II, and that game was pretty good. I mean, I've played Freelancer and that was good, but that's one modern space-flight game with very little company compaired to dozens of 1st person shooters and RPGs.

 

What about strategy games? I mean strategy as in "uses tactics and planning to make the most out of the forces you have" rather than "building an army thats twice the size of your opponant's and running him over". I guess if you are a Chinese general that's your battle plan, but for the rest of the world "strategy" means managing forces, not simply conjuring up more of them. It would be niced to play a new one of those, but I have to settle with chess if I want strategy.

 

 

This latest PS3 is just a prime example. Tons of graphics, but nothing really new about it. It has so much graphics that it takes a $2k TV to even show them and consumes tons of electricity. I mean a lot of electricity, like "this systems helps the terrorists" or "this system is speeding up global warming" type of energy consumption.

 

I'm not holding my breath for the wii either. It does have that motion sensing controller, which is a powerfull improvement. However, so was the touchscreen on the DS and they have yet to use that right. If the Nintendo people were smart, they'd be begging Bethesda to make Oblivion for wii. (Which would cause a running riot at the game stores.) The ball is in Nintendo's court right now, and if the defeater of Atari and Sega can't slam dunk this time there will be no hope for them.

freakout Newbie

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okay it relly comes down to this the revloution is going to attract alot more 3rd party simply becuse of the unique controllers is going to cause alot more creativty compared to ps3 umm well... put a computer in a box with ao controller sceam
SVS Newbie

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I got a PS3 and Wii on launch day but I don't get to play either until I get back to the states... *cry*

 

Anyways, I think the Wii will be the best. From what I have played on it already the Wii is great and I have had less then pleasent things about the current quality of the PS3 system itself (and launch !@#$%^&*les).

Blocks Newbie

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I got a PS3 and Wii on launch day but I don't get to play either until I get back to the states... *cry*

 

Anyways, I think the Wii will be the best. From what I have played on it already the Wii is great and I have had less then pleasent things about the current quality of the PS3 system itself (and launch !@#$%^&*les).

Better stick to the PS3, SVS. Don't want to throw out your arm or something.

The Apache Newbie

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LOL @ the cartoon. nice find mmav. :rolleyes:

 

i still don't understand why people don't just wait until the price of the console (and indeed games) go down in price from ridiculous to normal. but obviously, reASSS like those don't understand the concept of "waiting".

Mr. Right Newbie

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I find it funny how chaotic consumers were over the PS3. There were over 12 incidents across the united states that involved people getting shot, heckled, or stabbed over the hardware. But that is what happens when the store price of the PS3 is almost 1/3 of what it's actually worth in terms of technology, hardware, etc.

 

P.S. PC Gaming > PS3, X360, etc.

sil Newbie

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1st: nice comic lol

 

i still don't understand why people don't just wait until the price of the console (and indeed games) go down in price from ridiculous to normal. but obviously, reASSS like those don't understand the concept of "waiting".

 

2nd: the general public is too impatient to wait. which in turn promotes wellness to the economy. however, it also promotes people to be total !@#$%^&*holes, especially children and the parents who wont control them. But that is leading to an entirely different topic. BUT! I am reminded of a great quote from Bender:

 

"And so I ask you this one question. Have you ever tried simply turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?"

rootbear75 Newbie

rootbear75

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LOL @ the cartoon. nice find mmav. :D

 

i still don't understand why people don't just wait until the price of the console (and indeed games) go down in price from ridiculous to normal. but obviously, reASSS like those don't understand the concept of "waiting".

Price of Wii: $250 MSRP

Price of PS3: $500/$600 MSRP

 

what about the Wii price is not normal?

 

also,

i decided to take the Wii to school one day. Everyone in my class loves it. The only reason people say it sucks, is that it is new, and they don't think they can play it.

My English teacher (the class we played it in) played WiiSports (Bowling) with me and she thinks its great. A photographer for the school yearbook or newspaper or something (not sure) came in and took pictures of me and a classmate boxing. It is soo much fun. I highly suggest you guys go down to a local EB Games and try it out.

Also, the Wii Channel system is awesome. Theres the Disc Channel, Mii Channel, Photo Channel, Wii Shop Channel, Forecast Channel (weather), News Channel, (news, duh!), and soon to be Internet channel where you can surf the internet.

 

You guys are just !@#$%^&*es who are bias cause Nintendo hasnt done so well recently. Until you get your hands on a Wii, I EXPECT YOU @$$HOLES TO STFU! :stfu:

 

geez...

anyway, im gonna go back and party with some friends. too bad you cant join me xD

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