Doom-Squirrel Posted September 3, 2006 Report Posted September 3, 2006 So yeah. Reshipping to regain items isn't illegal. This is a problem. A rather blatant obvious problem. Please fix. There are thousands of reasons why it should be banned. Such as thorring somebody 600 times per minuteRegaining your 4+ reps whenever they run out (Invincibility, anybody?)Ect. But it's not yet illegal.Why not? I don't mind reshipping for basing. Just suicide yourself, same effect, no? That's the point of flagging. But reshipping in center is rather cheap. Sure, just suicide yourself. But I don't want Center to become a lame-fest, more than it already is. I can live with 4+ reps going off on every side, as long as I get my own 4+ reps. But when people refuse to die, avoiding anything that might cause them harm simply by reshipping to regain ports and reps, then I do believe that it's completely un-noob friendly, and drives people away from the game.
Deathboy-evil Posted September 3, 2006 Report Posted September 3, 2006 I can't see much of a reason to make that illegal from your post. If people reship for thors, its not hard to reship for repels. Simple as that. If their is so many reasons than point some more out...
Doom-Squirrel Posted September 3, 2006 Author Report Posted September 3, 2006 I can't see much of a reason to make that illegal from your post. If people reship for thors, its not hard to reship for repels. Simple as that. If their is so many reasons than point some more out... And let the noobs who don't have any repels suffer. The center should be a place where new people can start off gaining their fortune, not where they are maimed by veterans. It's not difficult for me to take a step outside, launch 2 thors, and reship. It's difficult to do much at all if you're being !@#$%^&*ualted with thors every 5 seconds. It's really not that hard to make reshipping illegal. I can't see much of a reason not to make it illegal. It's rather obvious that it's not very fair when it's legal, I don't see what's so hard about making it illegal.
Deathboy-evil Posted September 3, 2006 Report Posted September 3, 2006 Ok, look, amongst center, there are numerous of things. A lot of obstacles, bullets, bombs, turrets, thors, levi lamers, flaggers etc. This is controlled not by the vets, its controlled by everyone. I'm pretty sure, no one bothers to reship thors every "5 seconds" because I don't think its quite possible in center to reship every 5 seconds, people are right beside you, or near you. Meaning if you thor you get a small amount of that damage as well, by the close bomb affect, meaning its almost nearly impossible to reship every 5 seconds unless you got godly recharge. My point being, no one's going to reship for thors in center, unless there bored to death. It costs 7.5k for a repel. Whether your poor or your rich, you can still afford that in a small amount of time. Just get a bunch of kills and you'll have that, and I know theirs a lot of vets including myself lately who've been giving out money, + the events give some small amounts of money which help a lot in the process of getting Close Combat for repels. It's not hard to get them. I can't really think of anyone who'd use thors in center unless it was for a duel, or turrets. (Reshipping), or possibly a flagger. But its not a big thing about reshipping for thors in center, just run away if your being thorred. Or Dodge them, their not that hard to dodge. If its coming from the top, go left or right. Yawn... ok enough rambling on... All that giberish just explains that, Thors aren't a big impact in center. Whether your reshipping or not. Go to a sector than. "The center should be a place where new people can start off gaining their fortune, not where they are maimed by veterans." The center is controlled by everyone, including vets. Sometime's vets overpower everyone, but center is for everyone, and new people start off gaining their fortune killing everyone, and leeching as well with lucky kills, or killing from behind. Vets also die a lot in center, so their not always overpowering. I know it takes experience to get Close Combat as well (as were on the topic of repels still), killing a vet usually gets you 6 exp, which is a lot considering vets usually get 0 or 1 exp. Point being, because people thor in center, doesn't mean it should be illegal. "It's really not that hard to make reshipping illegal." It's not really that hard to make anything illegal, but, usually when you make something illegal you have a REALLY good reason on why it should be illegal. I don't see why because people reship for thors, others can't reship for repels. "It's rather obvious that it's not very fair when it's legal, I don't see what's so hard about making it illegal." It's basically been fair from the start. Unless your starting off from nothing now. But it's just like a RPG game in a way. Your starting from scratch. Your not going into a duel with the most godliest person in the game and expect that your going to win. You got to earn things to become better. In order to get thors, you need to earn it. Same with repels. So just because people have spent some time to earn their thors and have fun with them, doesn't mean they should become illegal, when you can do the exact same thing when you get repels, just reship. I know I'm rambling, but I'm trying to make this as clear as possible, their isn't a valid reason here of why it should be made illegal. For the 100th time. So what if people reship for thors. All you got to do is reship for repels, and if you don't got repels, than earn them, just like others did for their thors.
Bomook Posted September 3, 2006 Report Posted September 3, 2006 I don't think it should be made illegal, but it is lame. A year or two ago, javelins were invincible in the center by holding down tab, and spamming rockets and occasional portals. As DBE said though, thors in particular aren't really a problem, but I think other items can be, depending on the settings. Also, illegalizing reshipping is too hard to enforce. If it becomes that big of a problem, it should be solved with a module.
Exiili Posted September 3, 2006 Report Posted September 3, 2006 And before we even start thinking about coding some module to prevent some random dude to rehip for thors. 1- Reship for repels. DOH DOH DOH, why is everyone so retarted.2-There's MUCH more important things the coders should attend to, for example server stability or 65535-bounty-warp-anywhere bug.3-Reshipping takes away your bounty, which takes away most of the money you'll make. So the only guys to reship for thor in center would be rec'ers. But levi laming is far more effective way.THUS, i can't see why anyone would even think about reshipping for thors in center.4-I didn't even bother to read your other post, but you seriously whine too much.
Afroman Posted September 3, 2006 Report Posted September 3, 2006 i remember this guy from redstar..all he did was cry that people ported and used reps then he would start some long useless argument on how it is lame and cheap just STFU NOONE CARES WHAT YOU THINK
Deathboy-evil Posted September 3, 2006 Report Posted September 3, 2006 4-I didn't even bother to read your other post, but you seriously whine too much. just STFU NOONE CARES WHAT YOU THINK You know your hated when ... eh?
BlueWyvern Posted September 3, 2006 Report Posted September 3, 2006 Dude, it won't matter, how would mods enforce it? It's very hard to get caught doing it and even if they did what proof would you have that they did it? Just live with it, people that ship change for items are viewed as lamers anyways, if they want to be seen as someone without skill whatever, that's their fault. I'm sure they could add a feature that only prizes items when you die but it's just a game, just have fun, it's not just about winning. (Why do you think I play this game? Hehe)
Doom-Squirrel Posted September 4, 2006 Author Report Posted September 4, 2006 You know, in a passive agressive attempt to prove my point, I've learned that reshipping is fun. Too bad it ain't illegal
Kilo Posted September 4, 2006 Report Posted September 4, 2006 My prediction is that a future module will attempt to control this, until then, who cares? Fight fire with fire.
Marioman Posted September 4, 2006 Report Posted September 4, 2006 who doesnt have reps? (including newbs?) everyone is giving out money, because i guess all the vets have been expecting a reset i gave out 450k to newbs so far (dbe i have seen you reship for thors against turrets. etc.. in center, does that make you a lamer ? )
MWarrior Posted September 4, 2006 Report Posted September 4, 2006 Well here I was playing with my lanc in center and I got like 100 bty..yippee. Some random newb decides to start rocketting me and brickwarping me every 2 seconds, there's nothing I can do about it and I ended up losing all my bty in safe. Anyway, shipchanging shouldn't be made illegal, but you should only be able to shipchange like once every 30 seconds or so that would be better.
Evo3 Posted September 6, 2006 Report Posted September 6, 2006 I don't think he was implying at all that thors are a problem in center, but reps are. Reshipping for thors, however, is a major problem. Not in freying, but in flagging. We've all seen the crazy thor attacks flying when you're trying to win -- an impossible number from just a few ships with a bunch of reps. Lots of cheapness like that going on, not just a matter of have and have nots. Also I don't think "being seen as lame" is a deterent at all as seen by what I observe as a marked increase of wall-bombing base 3.
Sound Posted September 17, 2006 Report Posted September 17, 2006 Reshipping being illegal is a very easy rule to enforce, but when in center i don't have a problem with it. When someone is just outside a base flanking and being an !@#$%^&*wipe with thors, that's when it pisses me off. Maybe only illegal in basing?
Deathboy-evil Posted September 18, 2006 Report Posted September 18, 2006 Reshipping being illegal is a very easy rule to enforce Your funny.
Doom-Squirrel Posted September 18, 2006 Author Report Posted September 18, 2006 Reshipping being illegal is a very easy rule to enforce Your funny. It's quite easy, somebody complains that they're being har!@#$%^&*ed by an opponent who's reshipping, you simply confirm the claim, and then punish. I don't see what the problem is.
Dr Brain Posted September 18, 2006 Report Posted September 18, 2006 Just because you don't see what the problem is doesn't mean that there is no problem.
Sound Posted September 18, 2006 Report Posted September 18, 2006 Dbe i don't appreciate your at!@#$%^&*ude. Think about it. People ALWAYS notice a reshipper, once noticed, reported.
Deathboy-evil Posted September 18, 2006 Report Posted September 18, 2006 saying "Your funny" Shows a bad at!@#$%^&*ude, I'm sorry mommy, gawd.. Think of it from a moderator's perspective, ok, Moderators are usually quite busy. To moderate everything, play every now and than.. and catch up with irl things would make everything complicated, ok, that's not a great example, say your playing, or in spec. Moderators don't have the time to go scan the entire map in 2 seconds to make sure no one is reshipping, the facts are, I haven't seen a valid reason, (none of the mods have) to make it illegal, If someone reships to gain items, than do the same thing. It's not illegal because no one has given a valid, reasonable reason to, so if you really want it made illegal, stop all your whining and giberish, post a couple good reasons, and hope that it's made illegal. It's as simple as that.
MWarrior Posted September 19, 2006 Report Posted September 19, 2006 The reasons are all here, you can read my first post too about shipchanging for brickwarping big ships so they lose bty. You can't avoid it either cus they use rockets and your ship is slow as !@#$%^&*.
Exiili Posted September 19, 2006 Report Posted September 19, 2006 I would like to point out that Sound Is a reshipper and deserves to be netbanned for life. Obviously you can have unlimited reps, which'll make your ship immortal, as if i couldn't sit in safety.I also could have unlimited decoys, but they're useless!I could use my unlimited bricks, portals and thors, But it'll wipeout my bounty, so i'm not getting any money out of it! anything lower than $10 is not money.In base people rather spend all their utilities and die, because it's much more simpler and you can utilize antideath that way. ConclusionOnly reason people reship is to either thor storm a flagger. reship for reps.Or to piss YOU off. And it worked quite fine.
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