»1587200 Posted April 16, 2006 Report Posted April 16, 2006 Why do people who aren't christians and don't believe (or know) anything about it wish me a happy easter? I don't go around wishing blacks a happy kwanza or jew's a happy -->Insert one of the hundred or so jewish holidays here<-- so what the crap.
PoLiX Posted April 16, 2006 Report Posted April 16, 2006 People just wish each other a happy easter, because, well it's easter. It's a holiday. It's like wishing someone a happy friday, except it's Easter. Christianity has become weak, not trying to start a huge religious battle or nothin, but it truly has. Most people don't know what the christian holidays are really about anymore, yet they just celebrate them because it's what families have done for hundreds of years. It's just like what keeps most religion alive; the passing of traditions from one generation to another. All that said... Happy Easter.
MonteZuma Posted April 16, 2006 Report Posted April 16, 2006 Its like saying 'have a good weekend'. Forget the religious meaning. Easter is a holiday. People are wishing you a happy holiday.
»1587200 Posted April 17, 2006 Author Report Posted April 17, 2006 Yeah, to the secular world Easter is pretty much just a holiday to get together and eat, to !@#$%^&* with why it's a holiday or what it means, ur hungry right? Frickin american commercialism. Know what you're celebrating. If you don't know, or don't care, or don't believe what the holiday stands for, then stay at home, put in a movie, eat your cheetos and stfu.
PoLiX Posted April 17, 2006 Report Posted April 17, 2006 It's not as much commercialism as it is, as I stated, the weakening of the religious meaning to the day. Friend of mine is a Priest, and even agreed with me on a few points I had before. My grandparents went to church everyday. We're highly religious, and still are. My mom went to church all the time as a young child, but less and less as she got older. Me, I have never been to church, and only stepped foot inside of one once in my life. But they still celebrate easter (We went over there today) even though me and my brother's don't have much meaning for it, we eat dinner and such with them. And such that tradition will continue, as I will do with my children with my parents, and possibly grandparents and so forth. It'll slowly lose the meaning, but it'll still be a tradition to sit down on easter and have a big family meal. Thanksgiving is truly the same way. Some people give thanks, most others just use it as a reason to get together and have a big dinner together. Not to be thankful for everything they have, even though being together and with their love ones they may think it quietly. It's just become a tradition amongst families. Christmas was to celebrate the birth of christ, instead everyone gives presents. It was a tradition started many years ago, and has continued on and on. I knew it was the birth of christ when I was younger, but I didn't know christ was the son of god til I was maybe 10 or 11? So to me it was celebrating the birth of some old king (songs say the newborn king), and we for some reason celebrated it by giving out gifts. !@#$%^&*, religion itself is a tradition. It's stories and teachings passed from 1 generation to the next on their beliefs of how people we're put on this earth. So don't be so !@#$%^&* bitter about people celebrating their traditions, cause I can just as easily say your tradition is dumb and pointless, as it is to me, but instead I respect it, as you should mine.
»1587200 Posted April 17, 2006 Author Report Posted April 17, 2006 Jews don't celebrate Christmas, so why should Athists and Agnotics celebrate Easter? I don't care if it's a tradition, tradition needs to go away anyway. If you don't believe it why celebrate it? Just because? Because you always have? Because you've grown up like that? Kinda pointless if you ask me. Don't get me wrong, my family has traditions too. We traditionally get together on Christmas with friends to remember the birth of Jesus. We also traditionally get together on Easter with friends to remember the ressurection. We don't however get together with friends to celebrate things we don't believe in. Am I saying that my family is better? No.Am I saying that you're wrong? No.Am I saying I disagree with you celebraing a holiday you don't believe in? Yes. Oh, btw, moving to Politics, since that is pretty much where this is headed.
LearJett+ Posted April 18, 2006 Report Posted April 18, 2006 They should just rename Easter to National Jews Go to the Movies Day. On a serious note - ironically, my Jewish friends and Muslim friend get candy on Easter. I guess it's good old American gluttony. Or perhaps people just like to celebrate... why deprive anyone of that?
AstroProdigy Posted April 18, 2006 Report Posted April 18, 2006 It's always something to complain about with you people. When they weren't celebrate Christmas and were calling it X-mas and you made a big fuss about it; now they're celebrating the actual holiday and saying happy easter AND YOU MAKE A BIG FUSS ABOUT IT!!! MAKE UP YOUR MINDS!!! You're allowed to disagree, but if I see protesters trying to get a law that you can't say happy easter if you aren't Christian I'm going to protest to make a law saying all supporters of this must shut the !@#$%^&* up and jump off a cliff.
The Apache Posted April 18, 2006 Report Posted April 18, 2006 Easter Sunday is so commericalised.Wtf does chocolate have to do with Christ? Wtf do bunnies have to do with this occasion?! (Not that I hate having chocolate... )
LearJett+ Posted April 18, 2006 Report Posted April 18, 2006 Astro, everyone always has something to complain about.
AstroProdigy Posted April 19, 2006 Report Posted April 19, 2006 Well this sounds like the ideology of Islamic jihadists, but without the let's kill people. We can't beat extremism if we continue to be dominated by those who would enforce religious ideologies on us.
Aileron Posted April 19, 2006 Report Posted April 19, 2006 There is no true historical example of any religion imposing itself on others. All such cases that look as such were from secular groups who somehow hijacked the local religion to support their own ends...even the Crusades were little more than the secular nobles hijacking religion so that they could conquer a spot of land for their younger sons to inherit. I for one don't view religion as weakening. I go to church every Sunday, and attendance is rather constant in my family from generation to generation. What I see happening is that many of the smaller Christian denominations are weakening, but the Catholic Church is growing dramatically, not by baptism as much as by conversion. Basically the small denominations are being absorbed by the athiests on one side and the Catholics on the other. This is in the end a good thing, because the problems that caused the schisms in Christianity in the first place have long since been solved. As for Happy Easter...its proper ettiquite as long as the reciever celebrates Easter...the background of the sender is irrelevent. The proper response to a Jewish person is "Happy passover", because theorhetically the Jews celebrate passover the Thursday before Easter.
MonteZuma Posted April 19, 2006 Report Posted April 19, 2006 If someone wishes me a happy Easter, I don't feel insulted. If a jew wished me a happy passover I wouldn't be insulted. I'm not isulted when people wish me a Merry Christmas. I wouldn't be insulted if you wished me a happy 4th July either. So what if I'm not Christian? Even if I'm not a christian, why shouldn't I be Merry on Christmas day or happy on Good Friday? And why shouldn't a jew or muslim or a friggin heathen wish a christian a happy Easter or a Merry Christmas? Maybe s/he wants you to be happy on your special day even if s/he thinks the day is just a great excuse to have time off work? Lighten up people. Its ok to be happy and Merry even if you aren't christian. And its ok for heathens to want christians to be happy and merry, too.
»Ducky Posted April 20, 2006 Report Posted April 20, 2006 Yeah, to the secular world Easter is pretty much just a holiday to get together and eat, to !@#$%^&* with why it's a holiday or what it means, ur hungry right? That's what the winter festival was about until christians jacked it and merged thier own traditions.(CHRISTMAS Sort of took on a whole new meaning eh?Forget celebrating a good harvest year, it's about a religious figure now. The most popular tradition will take precedence. It has always been that way and always will be that way.But while it is, Happy Easter. I enjoy chocolate and bunnies. I can at least prove they are real.
Aileron Posted April 21, 2006 Report Posted April 21, 2006 That's Thanksgiving fool. Harvest holidays occur in the fall. No farming society celebrates winter. Nor do they celebrate spring, because they don't have food to do it and they have a lot of planting to do. Before Easter there was passover, which was NOT due to coincidence, for the whole reason they went to Jerusalem in the first place was to celebrate passover. passover was started by the Israelis in the time and place of ancient Egypt. What the Egyptians may or may not have celebrated is practically pre-history, so consult an Anthropologist. I guess it is possible that Easter could theorhetically be a modification of some strange ancient Egyptian springtime festival (they had unorthodox growing seasons, so they might have celebrated spring), but its not even probabable, and certainly not likely enough for you to make that claim.
»Ducky Posted April 21, 2006 Report Posted April 21, 2006 What are you going on about?The winter solstice was celebrated long before jesus was around. A celebration of the harvest of newly slaughtered cattle, fermented wine and other such things. Harvest doesn't solely pertain to crops. Fool
Aileron Posted April 21, 2006 Report Posted April 21, 2006 The crucifiction occurred just after a passover, so if Easter is an offshoot of anything its an offshoot of passover. passover was started by the Iraelites just as they left ancient Egypt. That makes passover too old to be an offshoot of any known holiday...though they do celebrate passover by slaughtering lambs admittingly, so I guess it could be construed as a springtime harvest festival. Lent is certainly not though...it doesn't go at all in line with what an agricultural society would have that time of year. And...why are you upset over the loss of 2000 year forgotten holidays? Its not like you were around to remember any of them.
»Ducky Posted April 21, 2006 Report Posted April 21, 2006 Again, WTH are you talking about. I'm talking about Christmas as it pertains to the context of holidays in which Syrus is going on about. Easter isn't even in Winter.I will edit my post to say Christmas, but Easter was only a side comment.
AstroProdigy Posted April 21, 2006 Report Posted April 21, 2006 Heres a simple explanation for why people wish you a happy easter; easter is the dominant holiday therefore people wish other people a happy easter even if they're not christian. To wish a black person happy kwanza would be to assume theyve even heard of kwanza; its not even a big holiday. You act like wishing you a happy easter is an insult. I can't sympthize with someone like you who gets offended at every little thing. HAPPY EASTER SYRUS!
Greased_Lightning Posted April 22, 2006 Report Posted April 22, 2006 Wow, seriously, if someone wished you a happy easter, just say thank you and say it back, unless you dont celebrate it in which case just say, thanks. sheesh. common courtesy for crying out loud, dont make a mountain out of a mole hill or something like that. belatedly... happy easter to all who celebrate it, happy easter HOLIDAY to everyone who doesnt, and to those who make an issue out of every little thing... happy... umm... weekend this weekend. I'm sure some weird holiday or National Day is today or this weekend but im too lazy to look for it. I proclain today, NATIONAL GREASED LIGHTNING DAY!!! Go out and have fun, Thanks be to Greased.
AstroProdigy Posted April 22, 2006 Report Posted April 22, 2006 I think this debate is thoroughly over not even the conservatives agree with Syrus.
Aileron Posted April 23, 2006 Report Posted April 23, 2006 Oh, forgive me for !@#$%^&*uming you were on topic then Ducky.
Yoink Posted April 23, 2006 Report Posted April 23, 2006 Could you imagine where the economy would go if those who "didn't understand the meaning" of a holiday didn't buy gifts and whatnot? Don't blame the people who buy the stuff, blame those who market it.
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