Sorry if this has been brought up 5 million years ago, but I don't hang around here much. All us zone owners know that if the server can't connect to the biller, then it just times out and stays billerless until the next recycle. However, I have been using a DNS entry for my offsite biller and that went dead today, and one of my servers crashed when it retried the connection. I tested a few times, then found the IP, tried it, and it worked like a charm. So, it would be kind of nice if subgame didn't crash when it can't do a name lookup, since things would have turned out badly had I not been home. Thanks a lot, Cyan