I think the US acts as it is above the UN, so what if they were discussing the invation of iraq for a year? At the end of it they were going to do it anyway with or without support, they even made this clear in the later stages. You are going on about this "Patriotism", being patriotic does not mean you have to stand there and be a sheep to your presidant whilst he make radical decitions to invade other countries. I am patriotic to britan but i am growing more and more against the labour governmet. The thing i find about the US in iraq is thay are causing more problems then solutions, the culture and beliefs are very diffrent to our western way of life and people dont want their ways "poisoned" by americans. You may call it racism and in some ways it is but you cant forget the actions of the west througout histiory and many nations may NEVER forgive our nations for what we have done to them. Whilst we are on this topic i haeard that saudi araibia (sp.) have a huge hatred to the christian and jewish nations as christian and jewish religions are polycrastic in their view and thus evil. In fact as far as i know schools are filled with properganda against the west to bring the new generations into hatred for the western world. Put all that with invading a country then placing your views there dioes not make for good relations. Now let me get onto the UN. Yes it is supposed to be democratic Yes it is supposed to solve world problems The problem here is that its not so good at doing that, the reason id the security council having 5 perminate members including UK and the US. If they are always there they can veto anything that doesnt suit them at the expence of other nations. We have seen the US do this when it comes to israil (no surprise when the US sells israil its weapons). Surly it world work better if all nations had a vote and the majority vote wins, then the majority of nations are suited as appose to the security council regardless of the other nations. The arrogance of the US keeps coming up on this forum and i have to agree that the US is arrogant. How can anyone expect to place their views where everone to see them and expect all to conform? Things just dont work like that and to be honest you would have expected the US to have worked that out by now considering that has not worked in history. Im not going to say its only the US because many other nations show arrogance. i think we are stuck in the moddle of a classic case of this, the Power of the US is huge, but thet doesnt mean they are the worlds police. I think GWB needs a reality check to bring him out of this fairytale worldso he can see the impact all of this is having on the plannet.