white_0men

I'd !@#$%^&*osciate the way the media is presenting the war with the cold war a lot more than I would with the Vietnam war. Subs!@#$%^&*ute terror and communism and it's the same thing rehashed and reshaped, and the American public still fell for it. Read 1984.

What was it...some 90% of the media is owned by 5 or 6 companies. So they'll portray whatever it is they want to. What is important is that the people there need help and aren't getting any. Is it because they are black and don't have oil?

Analogies are horrible to use in arguments, but I feel this needs to be debunked anyway. 15 years. That rescue would have been an immediate response to a situation, not the final decision after 15 years of arguing. Would you really expect someone to survive a crash 15 years later? Would you still try a rescue operation 15 years after the crash occured if you've had no indication of any activity at the crash site? I certainly wouldn't. That's the problem with analogies, they can, and usually will, always fail a logical comparison of the two. Now, if you want to talk about the actual person, if they really wanted to save her they should have put her on ice until there existed a cure for brain damage, not kept her alive via feeding tube. I understand why they put her on it originally, but by the end they had to know how badly her brain was damaged, and how unlikely any kind of recovery could have been, or what her life would have been like had she recovered after say 10 years of being in a vegetative state. Legalize euthanasia! (and marijuana).

It's been a while since I've posted here, lost the link for a while, but I'm back...so on with the arguing! I too don't think that anyone has forgotten about 9/11. Instead, 9/11 has been used by Bush repeatedly to scare most of the population into allowing things like the patriot act. Hasn't anyone else made the connection between the cold war of our parents years and this war on terror? Neither was a war that could be won, but that didn't stop the government from using the fear of communists to drive their own agendas. Two weeks ago I was rudely awakened by the FBI at 6:30 in the morning because apparently my Pakistani roomate was such a threat to the country they had to deport him 5 days before he had planned to go back home. This wasn't even the first time they had deported him, they stopped him at the airport, kept him there for 12 hours, and then had him pay for a ticket back home. Why? Never gave him a reason. Is this the kind of government you want? The kind that turns away colege students with legal visas because of where they are from? Why give him the visa in the first place if you are just going to deport him? Ail, do you think that the way Bush is dealing with terrorism is really going to stop it from occuring? I'd imagine that his actions over the last couple of years have only served to recruit more terrorists. What better slogan could the muslim world have asked for than Bush? There are also the people who feel that Bush completely went about Iraq in the wrong way. Other countries like Syria and Iran either have nuclear weapons, or are trying to get them as we speak, yet here we are, still in Iraq. It's disgusting.

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She's about as far right on the conservative scale as you could possibly go, and an author. One of her books is !@#$%^&*led "How to talk to liberals". You've probably also seen her on Bill Maher's Real Time. She's cute, but the things that come out of her mouth make me want to strangle her.

Just one thing... At what point did Saddam invade Poland?

Wasn't this why there was a Desert Storm? Using the !@#$%^&*umption that you meant threat, and then following your logic. GWB knew and allowed 9/11 to happen to mobilize our country into a war with Iraq? Sounds awfully like what you could use to describe the way Americans used terror before 9/11. More powerful nations deserve more power... What does the size of one's country have to do with anything? We've got more land than you, must mean we're better! Where did all this crap about the UN deciding US security policy come from anyway? I missed the memo.

The dots are very easy to connect. They are people, they have opinions, message boards are used to voice opinions. Don't want to read their opinions? Don't open the message board named Political Discussion.

A NY Times article that states the CIA Director was telling Bush different things than he told the public is a liberal that knows html? Why do I think Bush needed some evidence to go to war? He's sending American troops. Those troops went over there and died because his intelligence was wrong. You have your beliefs, I have mine. No amount of deaths is ever worth it. Saddam would have to be cracked out to attack the USA, as would any other country, because they know we actually do have stockpiles of WMD's and we aren't hesitant to use them. Were you afraid of Iraq before 9/11? Were you afraid of Iraq after 9/11? Were you afraid of Iraq before/during/after the invasion? I certainly wasn't. And what would you call sending of a thousand troops to die while how ever many more come back injured fighting a war that didn't have to be fought. It hinges on whether or not you believe democracy is the way that they should run their country. Remember, this is a country that tells their women that the only part of their body that can be seen are their eyes and their hands. Maybe, just maybe, they aren't ready for democracy.

Ahh the good old days of sitting in class drawing out bases for aswz in my notes instead of paying attention...

An overstated threat? Why is it that everyone -*BAD WORD*-foots around calling it what it is? A major !@#$%^&*up. Although it does beg the question, does anyone know that they didn't overstate it for personal reasons? *Fans the flames harder* --- Cheney goes to Langley I had found the original newsweek post, but page 2 and 3 are down, so I link to this site, which has a link to the newsweek post. Know how many previous vice presidents visited C.I.A. headquarters? None. There, I think that's a big enough flame for now. Enjoy the heat.

And you do care about Iraq? How is "You hate bush therefore you don't care about Iraq" a valid reason? Iraq is somewhere I feel we shouldn't be. Go after the terrorists, rip their hearts out, kill the pieces of s!@#$%^&* that were responsible for what happened in New York. But, where's the valid reason for going into Iraq? Whether the country of Iraq is better off now than it was before is irrelevant. Who are we to say what's better or worse? Story Time: There is a family that lives down the street from me who blasts their salsa music into the early morning while I'm trying to sleep. My life would be better off without them. Does that mean that I can go drop a bomb on them? Absolutely not, but that's one of the reasons Bush used, and no one has said !@#$%^&* about it. Where is your validity now? --- Did you know that 42% of America still thinks that Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9/11?

Wow, go W A M M. 8/8 isn't half bad.

Sadly people pay more attention to this than to the legality of the War on Terror (oops, I mean Iraq.)