Plutorus

Gut reaction: Nacre, Travis, Buny, Jae

Fond memories with Port Llast. Sad to see you go, but I know you'll each catch on with new squads soon. -Plut

7th was on Outlaws and is now on Critical Ass so he's on the other side of things; his squads only get 1-2 good matches per season too. With every squad in one league, the middle-tier squads have the most exciting games. But we don't really have the squads to split leagues before the playoffs I might agree that the top squads and bottom squads each have about 1 or 2 competitive matches per season, but I think there is a very distinct difference for the remaining games; dishing out beatings is a heck of a lot more tasty than receiving said beatings. -Plut

Upvote - Nacre, Rage, Mushroom, Chemical. Travis sub. Also considered: Three, Bike, Healthy Kingnewbie, Exorcist, Garcon, Prime Tunahead, Dingo

looking good GC!

I've attempted to delicately procure the email list in the past with no luck. Maybe an in-house list would be best? This is probably something the 4v4 council could help initiate. The community would have to collectively choose who would be a responsible wielder of emails...my nomination would be Solar Hydro -Plut

Hi Capefire, the main server is down. You can add the temporary Chaos Zone that is currently live by following Hallu's instructions in the initial post! -Plut

Thanks for the info and updates. -Plut

Any chance of updating old castle to the newer "wobit's house"? -Plut

Median seems to apply for many of the rankings, but it didn't apply to Develop. Hmmm... To play, just login. You can rank as many or as few as you like (just friends or teammates or enemies is perfectly fine).

Agreed. Unfortunately, the !forcecap feature harms our 2014 community far more than it helps. -Plut

thx Mom

So Ozn, Sven, 7th and I have been slowly updating the player rankings page this week. It’s fun, and who knows, maybe it will give Captor+ some additional draft league options: http://svssubspace.com/index.php?page=4v4PilotRankings To get started, just login and rank! *Notes – my alarmingly subjective rankings are based on intuition, gut feeling, clairvoyance, hindsight, second sight, and tea leaves. Both Match and Prac performance were considered. Additionally, a futile attempt at weighing stacking vs regular play was made

Working on this with Mcqueen. -Plut

do I have to sign up with my squad, or can it be with anyone?

thx caer

ufotable> ok ufotable> so we're at EGO? Plutorus> we are...but before we start, I have to make a shoutout to McLaren ufotable> wtf ufotable> did he tell you who he was Plutorus> not yet, I didnt ask either Plutorus> McLaren - Though shall not question his lancaster! ufotable> I don't know about giving him a shoutout then ufotable> that's like me giving a shoutout to some dude at the gas station Plutorus> True. Maybe I'll withhold the shoutout. Plutorus> But you never know - first shoutouts, next sponsors Plutorus> this thing could snowball ufotable> hmmmmm ufotable> good point ufotable> ok ufotable> EGO? Plutorus> EGO! ufotable> wait ufotable> why are they spelled in lowercase Plutorus> understated return? perhaps its more mature, more elegant ufotable> I like it ufotable> the wine sipping version Plutorus> yes ufotable> ok go ufotable> first thoughts? Plutorus> So their ideal starting core is pretty solid ufotable> bhang captor pseudo fedu? Plutorus> yeah Plutorus> they recently added pempu Plutorus> pempu played pretty well in aml finals last season ufotable> Pempu naturally belongs on this squad ufotable> Pempu and bhang top 5 laggy euros you don't want to gunduel? Plutorus> bhang obviously top shelf material Plutorus> definitely ufotable> ok who are the other 3? Plutorus> storm is a vet, looked a bit inconsistent from what ive seen, but had some really nice pracs ufotable> man ufotable> I meant the laggy euro lineup Plutorus> I don't think I've seen mystic cloud or jaakko around, leading me to think they need another pilot or 2 Plutorus> I probably agree with your 4 ufotable> I'm going with Sika, bhang, pempu, Dagger, Miner ufotable> and I know Miner isn't a euro ufotable> It should be called the Sika all stars Plutorus> oh yea, I'm not interested in gundueling any of those guys ufotable> I totally derailed this ufotable> who is Mystic Cloud? Plutorus> unknown ufotable> That's not Cloud right? Plutorus> nah, cloud would just use Cloud ufotable> wait ufotable> am I crazy ufotable> or in Shiner's gallery was Cloud in a hawaiian shirt Plutorus> let me go look ufotable> lol Plutorus> this is important Plutorus> http://web.archive.org/web/20011024185932/subspace.net/gallery/ Plutorus> no, he's got some kind of white polo thing happening ufotable> damn totally missed on that one ufotable> ok ok ufotable> so ufotable> after Pempu this team could be in trouble? Plutorus> they need like perfect attendance to have even 1 sub ufotable> Have you seen Jaakko in the last 8 years? Plutorus> negative Plutorus> ego had pilo rostered for a little while too ufotable> I remember when bodyhunt was on this lineup ufotable> hmmmmm ufotable> so ufotable> factoring in the lack of depth ufotable> where do you see them ending up? No banner? What's the B over there? To find out, type !help ranks or !help bonus Hit F1 to learn how to play. Plutorus> ive got them in my backarrow/ego/dropships/sfe zone ufotable> that's quite a range you just mentioned ufotable> top 4 vs. top 4 ufotable> them or BA? ufotable> It's like Chris Leben vs. Jon Fitch Plutorus> arc is killing me on this one Plutorus> if arctos is enjoying the game, BA Plutorus> you? ufotable> man I don't know Plutorus> ok lets do it man vs man Plutorus> bhang or tuna? Plutorus> (putting you on the spot lol) ufotable> bhang Plutorus> arc vs pseudo ufotable> arc Plutorus> captor vs plare ufotable> captor Plutorus> candy vs fedu ufotable> fedu Plutorus> ok, you just picked EGO ufotable> hmmm ufotable> what do you think? Plutorus> im not playing that game! lol ufotable> lol wtf ufotable> it's so close ufotable> candy vs. fedu Plutorus> it is close, agreed ufotable> captor vs. plare also a wash ufotable> the depth is crucial though Plutorus> what about the sub slot? Let's say pempu vs sabrewolf ufotable> Jinxi over Pempu easily Plutorus> man jinxi is pretty afk, I dunno ufotable> I'd take him right now over pempu ufotable> he's probably asleep ufotable> I'd still take him Plutorus> please send your complaints to ufotable@gmail.com ufotable> When you've been captain of a championship level team Plutorus> actually I have no idea if that is your real emial ufotable> I don't think you ever lose that intellectual edge ufotable> I do have a gmail account Plutorus> So I saw bona (jinxi) praccing, and was surprised. He looked very rusty. My mental image of Jinxi didnt match what I saw ufotable> ok so ufotable> right now ufotable> your life on the line, two teams even ufotable> sub coming in ufotable> you'd take pempu over jinxi? Plutorus> too many factors Plutorus> if I just need to save a slot, probably jinxi ufotable> the only factor is your vagina Plutorus> but if I need to get a kill? Plutorus> TUFF ufotable> bah ufotable> FINE ufotable> so we think pretty highly of EGO Plutorus> yes ufotable> any chance they can make a leap to the next class? ufotable> top 4, can they challenge CM on a good day? Plutorus> I dont think so Plutorus> they always have a shot, but CM has some killers ufotable> I could see a 9-7 game Plutorus> Three, Ozn, Antihuman*, 7th (*edited real name - plut) Plutorus> just so strong ufotable> I fear for pseudo in that game ufotable> also, for the 2 people that still didn't know Antihuman* was on CM (*moar edit - plut) ufotable> you just outed him Plutorus> omg Plutorus> maybe I'll edit that ufotable> lol ufotable> alright lets move on before you get in more trouble! Plutorus> good idea Plutorus> Llamas Next! ufotable> Llamas have changed the most of any squad over the last 5 years in my opinion ufotable> from a heavy defensive minded, limiting mistakes team ufotable> to a solid offensive team ufotable> Only Wado and Street were on the team 5 years ago ufotable> Top 4? Plutorus> gosh, is cfl hungry? probably not ufotable> whoa ufotable> I totally missed that ufotable> when did they pick up cfl? Plutorus> he's back, baby! totally underrated pilot ufotable> ok so Plutorus> however, my top 4 today would be ghostbuster17, savage, psyanide, and hed/pp/dagger ufotable> do you think ufotable> because of the family connection ufotable> GB and Savage have a psychic connection? Plutorus> lol, my mind's eye likes to picture them sitting in the same room playing, barking coordinations and whatnot ufotable> omg ufotable> that would be out of control Plutorus> full bunk-bed in the background ufotable> except they'd have to do it with canadian accents Plutorus> thats icing on the cake ufotable> like, "great rep eh" ufotable> ok so ufotable> am I crazy or ufotable> Legacy > cfl > CFK ufotable> similar playstyles Plutorus> hmm ur crazy ufotable> nuts Plutorus> I view CFK/PP/pez sort of the same ufotable> oh totally disagree Plutorus> they kind of swoop in from strange angles and try to pick you off ufotable> ok ok we need to get back on topic ufotable> I'm looking for a top 4 ufotable> could this team be too deep? Plutorus> lots of parity, potential for playtime issues? ufotable> GB, hed, twist, psy, cfl, PP, Sav, Dagger ufotable> all have cases for starting Plutorus> yea ufotable> I'd go GB, Sav, Dagger, PP Plutorus> I like it ufotable> good mix of playmaking, finishing, and teamplay Plutorus> dagger is really tough ufotable> totally agree ufotable> all underrated team? Plutorus> with rage out of the picture, could he be the best spider in league? ufotable> whoa ufotable> you just went heavy with that one ufotable> potentially yes ufotable> It's past midnight and I can't mentally pull up other speiders ufotable> .*spiders Plutorus> barbarian Plutorus> spring Plutorus> uhhh ufotable> MEDICUS Plutorus> medicus! ufotable> MEDI I HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN YOU ufotable> Tuna was annoying for the 2 weeks he played spider 4 players needed for a 4v4 practice in ?go 4v4squad1 -Izar ufotable> as was Ozn Plutorus> so I pracced against a very strong llamas team recently ufotable> Mindriot seems to be playing spider Plutorus> it was ghost, savage, psyanide, twista I believe ufotable> tough lineup to beat Plutorus> was VERY impressed, I think I had a decent team too Plutorus> but they beat us up pretty easily ufotable> Can't be understated ufotable> Llamas prac a lot ufotable> and it shows Plutorus> oh yeah, mindriot for spider too ufotable> other teams talk about teamwork and chemistry ufotable> they actually have it Plutorus> yea Plutorus> the problem is they cant get over the hump. ufotable> Do they have a true #1 to elevate them? ufotable> seems we're thinking the same thing Plutorus> as Ozn pointed out, maybe ghostbuster17 can push them forward? Plutorus> I think its up to him ufotable> The others are all 100% known quantities at this point Plutorus> yea ufotable> great players, but not ones that can take them to the next level ufotable> GB I agree is their only hope Plutorus> top they finish top 4? ufotable> Where do you see them against EGO or BA? Plutorus> I think llamas win Plutorus> or I should say, favored ufotable> even though we could agree that EGO would have the best player on the map? Plutorus> yes Plutorus> I'm a big tunahead fan too ufotable> I was about to mention that ufotable> Arc/Tuna ufotable> BA would also have the best player Plutorus> one nice advantage llamas have Plutorus> is that they have some real duelers Plutorus> savage and psyanide can both bang ufotable> GB as well Plutorus> yes ufotable> in a 3v3 or lower man game ufotable> I do not want to face them Plutorus> that gives them the confidence going into a match Plutorus> they arent going to fear you ufotable> great point ufotable> top 4 hmmm ufotable> they'd need to finish above TD Log file open: Part2biggie.txt Plutorus> just finished this glass of wine, im ready to make this log more interesting ufotable> I don't know if that's good or bad Plutorus> time will tell! Ok, Outlaws? ufotable> OUTLAWS ufotable> you were on this team not long ago ufotable> elephant in the room ufotable> How active is KN? ufotable> We also need to settle OUTLAWS vs. CM Plutorus> Prior to Part 1 of this chat log, KN was a bit MIA Plutorus> since then, I've seen him around, resulting in me changing my rankings a bit ufotable> lol ufotable> I see that our rankings are super thoughtful No banner? What's the B over there? To find out, type !help ranks or !help bonus Hit F1 to learn how to play. Plutorus> lol yes ufotable> based on weeks/months/years of analysis ufotable> and couldn't be swayed by 2 days of sample size ufotable> and seeing a guy fly around ufotable> excellent Plutorus> So we just had preseason week 3 games Plutorus> and Assassins seemed to need a non-team sub Plutorus> to field 4? According to the logs anyway, I wasn't able to watch that match ufotable> Assassins are like the Heat at this point ufotable> why show up for regular season ufotable> much less preseason ufotable> they should draw straws to decide which 3 have to show for games in the regular season ufotable> wait Plutorus> I've taken a closer look at Outlaws ufotable> wait Plutorus> waiting ufotable> seriously?! ufotable> you're going there? Plutorus> who? what? where? ufotable> I thought your entire Assassins showing 3 thing ufotable> was setting up for you saying that your completely arbitrary rankings now had OUTLAWS at #1 Plutorus> YES ITS TRUE ufotable> OMG ufotable> so Plutorus> OUTLAWS #1!!!! They are now perched at the top of my rankings. ufotable> based on one preseason game ufotable> and seeing KN at the 7-11 ufotable> you now have moved OUTLAWS from #3 to #1 Plutorus> ufo, sometimes these things need to simmer until fully cooked Plutorus> ive got this figured out now ufotable> you know ufotable> aren't you vegan? ufotable> If you simmer vegetables too long ufotable> they just get soggy ufotable> FINE Plutorus> SO ufotable> Outlaws now #1 per Plut ufotable> I think they're my #2 team Plutorus> I've now got Outlaws 1, Assassins 2, CM 3 Plutorus> then llamas ufotable> TD ufotable> please direct green messages to Plutorus ufotable> he also thinks your girlfriends are ugly Plutorus> xoxo TD, you are The Darkhorse indeed at #5 Plutorus> nadai is one of my fav players ufotable> WAit ufotable> we'll get to them ufotable> OUTLAWS ufotable> top 4? ufotable> KN Bike and? Plutorus> so outlaws added chronos, enforcer, krellin (is back), nine, danks ufotable> so is chrono on outlaws or TD Plutorus> dunno, he's on both rosters currently ufotable> They lost 7th ufotable> and Devious Plutorus> my top 4 is bike, kn, legacy, krellin ufotable> lets say, for sake of argument ufotable> they do have rusty chrono ufotable> stronger this season than last season? Plutorus> but their bench is super strong regardless of lineup... Plutorus> id say stronger, yes Plutorus> what do you think? ufotable> I don't see enf and chrono enough ufotable> and 7th pracs every day ufotable> I don't know if they added another starter necessarily ufotable> but they certainly lost one ufotable> If 7th is still on the team, isn't he the 4th over krellin in the top 4 you just listed? Plutorus> they didnt have krellin last season. and suicidal pracs aside, he can play Plutorus> dunno, I love the way krellin plays ufotable> dude ufotable> you've had too many big macs Plutorus> haha Plutorus> veggie macs maybe! ufotable> that sounds disgusting ufotable> that would be like 3 buns ufotable> and beans Plutorus> lol, slightly anecdotal, I once went through a burger king drive through, and there was a veggie big mac that my friend ordered ufotable> Burger King doesn't have big macs ufotable> are you actually american? Plutorus> it ended up being a regular big mac, minus the meat. just buns, ketchup, onions, pickles lol Plutorus> YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN ufotable> FINE Plutorus> im not a fast food expert Plutorus> Port Llast? ufotable> wait ufotable> LOL ufotable> was that your entire story? Plutorus> ye ufotable> oh man Plutorus> and btw, I only tell AMAZING stories ufotable> clearly ufotable> I give up ufotable> last thing on OUTLAWS ufotable> I really like Leg when he's pushing ufotable> I don't like him as much when he needs to go backwards Plutorus> thats a great point, he's far less effective in reverse, agree ufotable> against Assassins, I think that really hurt them in the championship ufotable> and I wonder how that will go this season Plutorus> I cant argue ufotable> against all be Assassins ufotable> they'd be even odds at least to be mostly forward arrowing ufotable> (All this is assuming KN is active, if not, all bets are off) ufotable> but lets say they meet Assassins in the finals ufotable> Do you still start KN, Bike, Leg, and Krel? Plutorus> vs nacre, saiyan, develop and mop? ufotable> yes Plutorus> I'd have to think about it. Mop is a different player than three Plutorus> damage would be reduced in that slot pretty significantly Plutorus> good question ufotable> What bout Sika or kdak in Mops slot? ufotable> I guess my point is, I don't know - I'd probably go with a lineup of KN, Bike, Enf, and Barb ufotable> just something to think about... what if they establish chemistry all season with a certain 4/5 ufotable> and have to change tactics in the finals/semis ufotable> of course they're deep enough to do it ufotable> but that elite teamwork that is their great advantage could be hurt in the process ufotable> ready to move on? Plutorus> yeah, I think that covers outlaws, great team Plutorus> oh wait ufotable> agreed, amazing team Plutorus> I just want to mention hibachi. He has been afk lately, but I think a good captain is very important to a squad, and he's a good captain. Hi hibachi! ufotable> wtf ufotable> we're not getting paid for this yet Plutorus> was that a shoutout? ufotable> or if you're getting paid ufotable> you're not sharing ufotable> Port Llast? Plutorus> Port Llast! ufotable> YEAH ufotable> I can't help but notice immediately ufotable> that this team was much stronger last season Plutorus> yeah, they lost a handful of key players Plutorus> this squad has a different look and feel, and I do wish them the best ufotable> A good thing is that almost everyone is active ufotable> and practices regularly ufotable> Seriel has improved greatly as a player over the last season+ Plutorus> yeah seriel can be dangerous, and he's another guy I wouldnt want to gunduel ufotable> My top 4 would be Seriel, HG, THC, and Tweeg ufotable> with Gutter and Mega as first and second sub Plutorus> yeah, totally agree ufotable> beyond weird that HG is on this roster ufotable> did he get lost on the way to the bar? Plutorus> High Gain really is a legend of the league. He isn't in top form at the moment, but he's a key factor in how far Port Llast can go this season ufotable> could not agree more ufotable> their chances of elevation rest with him Plutorus> yep Plutorus> the loss of pempu definitely hurts ufotable> This roster could do with more of his X-factor kind of crazy Plutorus> yeah ufotable> also ufotable> shout out to Ninespike ufotable> new player in league Plutorus> NINESPIKE! ufotable> I hope he sticks with it Plutorus> me too, he's fun to have around Plutorus> if obesity can regain his old form, he could be a factor too Plutorus> but right now he looks pretty rusty, I think he'd admit ufotable> Obe was a mainstay of secret for a long time ufotable> sorry ufotable> Nightwatch ufotable> I always thought he was solid ufotable> but the rust is palpable at this point Plutorus> he was on skyrakers too back in the day. Obe was one of the first people I really looked up to, during my nascent days in Chaos ufotable> Storytime with Plutorus Plutorus> see, more AMAZING stories lol ufotable> at least that one wasn't a cliff hanger ufotable> I'm still waiting to find out what happened after your friend ordered the vege big mac ufotable> OK ufotable> so where do you think they finish? Plutorus> Does Port Llast have a chance at repeating as AML champs? No banner? What's the B over there? To find out, type !help ranks or !help bonus Hit F1 to learn how to play. ufotable> If HG regains form they have a chance Plutorus> no pressure HG! Plutorus> Ok, SFE? ufotable> SFE! ufotable> I'll be quiet for this one Plutorus> So correct me if I'm wrong, but SFE is possibly the oldest active league squad? Plutorus> Solar Hydro really needs to be commended for the job he's done, year after year with Starfire Elite 1 player needed for a 4v4 practice in ?go 4v4squad1 -Izar Plutorus> imo, their current lineup is one of their best Plutorus> Shikaa, ufotable, and Something Dutch are a great threesome ufotable> SFE has been around since '97 ufotable> continuously Plutorus> Amazing Plutorus> My problem with SFE, and their recruiting agents, is that they were unable to add a 4th great starter to the squad, to really push them forward Plutorus> When I look at the rest of the lineup, I don't see the 4th puzzle piece that would transform SFE into a *really* dangerous squad. Plutorus> That being said, its a great group of the nicest people in subspace. Plutorus> koach is a nice addition, I think he's a very nice prospect Plutorus> medicus is probably my choice for the 4th starting slot, but he seems fairly afk ufotable> unfortunately, I thought we were Erating champs ufotable> but Nude for Satan has a lower erating than Solar Plutorus> hehe Plutorus> mfa often gets starts or important subs, but he doesn't prac much anymore Plutorus> shikaa is one of my fav pilots, extremely solid play, and could probably play for any team he wanted Plutorus> ufotable a cornerstone of this squad, a very solid pilot that uses a very cerebral style of play to outwit his opponents. Always solid teamwork and positioning ufotable> YES ufotable> I feel so good about myslf ufotable> .*myself even Plutorus> something dutch can be a force. He really hassled me in the AML final game last season, peppering me with emps all match long. Can overextend a bit sometimes, but overall a solid pilot that can hurt you Plutorus> Allow myself to introduce...myself. I'm Austin Powers. ufotable> wha ufotable> where did that even come from ufotable> I'm so confused Plutorus> SFE is a team I root for, and I think they can hang at a very high level; just wish they could add or groom that 4th starter so we could see them reach their full potential Plutorus> The Dark? ufotable> yes I can tag back in! ufotable> TD ufotable> TD, Plut may not like or respect you ufotable> but I do! Plutorus> lies, I love TD! ufotable> Who is YELLOW HAMMER? Plutorus> Everyone says its Jocker - I don't think so myself ufotable> JOCKER is also on roster ufotable> also ufotable> Nebug = Benji? Plutorus> think so ufotable> Any idea who swamp is? Plutorus> no, but swamp is good. Havent seen him in a long time though, unless he's aliased ufotable> I agree ufotable> swamp can play ufotable> readers probably know who all these guys are ufotable> and we're just too uncool Plutorus> hah yea Plutorus> top 4? ufotable> everyone active, my top 4 would be chrono, blink, nadai, 9-Volt Plutorus> thats a solid lineup Plutorus> no monkk? Plutorus> or jocker? ufotable> more realistically, it's probably blink, nadai, Benji, Monkk/JOCKER ufotable> what do you think? Plutorus> they added someone named EAT LEAD LAMER on Sunday ufotable> clearly a new player from chaos Plutorus> hehe Plutorus> we should start a rumor Plutorus> isn't that Dacrath? ufotable> I like how you prefaced that with "we should start a rumor" ufotable> Dacrath is a good guess though Plutorus> yeah, flys just like him ufotable> EAT LEAD LAMER is exactly the type of handle that fits his personality Plutorus> I think its him. ufotable> Dacrath really swings the balance of power ufotable> especially if he abuses his 10 year old powers ufotable> top to bottom, they have a lot of strong talent ufotable> Nadai, blink, 9-volt, monkk, hammer, Miner (hanging out with his 20 maid harem), JOCKER, chrono, swamp, benji, dozz, dacrath, foul, Kane ufotable> everyone can play Plutorus> yes Plutorus> no weak links Plutorus> except inactivity Plutorus> where is monkk lately? ufotable> Didn't 3 go on a drunken rampage against Monkk? Plutorus> yeah, monkk came back for that verbal duel, then left again ufotable> either way ufotable> I blame Dacrath Plutorus> clearly ufotable> so who do you think for top 4? ufotable> realistically ufotable> out of guys who will play actively this season Plutorus> ok, monkk seems inactive and I think chronos is probably outlaws Plutorus> and jocker is afk Plutorus> or aliased Plutorus> ill take nadai, blink, 9volt, benji Plutorus> they have a ton of questions though ufotable> When was the last time 9volt played in a league game? Plutorus> this roster just confuses me Plutorus> I think 9v played a playoff game for TD last season? ufotable> I agree ufotable> confusing roster Plutorus> potentially could be VERY dangerous ufotable> They could be contenders Plutorus> but in a worst case scenario, I could see them having trouble fielding 4 too ufotable> or the #5 seed ufotable> Any chance they drop below 5? Plutorus> imo only due to inactivity ufotable> yeah I have to agree ufotable> bhang, captor, fedu, pseudo Plutorus> I hope Mog joins them ufotable> against nadai, blink, 9, benji ufotable> clear edge to TD 1 player needed for a 4v4 practice in ?go 4v4squad1 -GhostBuster17 Plutorus> think so ufotable> lol No banner? What's the B over there? To find out, type !help ranks or !help bonus Hit F1 to learn how to play. ufotable> If Mog joins them ufotable> that just makes them more puzzling ufotable> or rather Plutorus> haha totally ufotable> adds another inactive Plutorus> they need POWER ufotable> POWER Plutorus> POWER ufotable> seriously ufotable> I don't think that's his only name ufotable> also Plutorus> I'm fading quick, my wine has worn off ufotable> How is it 1.22AM Plutorus> lol I know ufotable> who's idea was this? ufotable> oh man ufotable> ok Plutorus> Ok, any last thoughts on The Dark or this log before we wrap it up? ufotable> Lets wrap up ufotable> We'll be back to do playoff predicts later this season? ufotable> do you want to pick a champ right now and one later? Plutorus> Sure ufotable> I'm going with Assassins Plutorus> I'll take outlaws ufotable> ok we'll go out on this ufotable> every season, one or more players change squads before roster lock ufotable> and potentially swing the title ufotable> we saw it last season Plutorus> definitely ufotable> who do you think could be that guy this season? Plutorus> again, I look at the nacre/saiyan combo ufotable> which squad do you think they'd end up on? Plutorus> if they have any issues fielding 4 each week, I could see them saying goodbye again Plutorus> CM? ufotable> I agree ufotable> and CM is my pick too ufotable> with TD as a distant second Plutorus> yep, that was my other thought ufotable> EAT LEAD LAMER is my pick Plutorus> Hey, its hard to pick against Dacrath. ufotable> to swing the title for Assassins ufotable> ok, we're done ufotable> good times

Awesome writeup, does a great job a digging a little deeper. Upvote.

thx Caer!

My first impression is that I like the smaller map and prefer a less-cluttered center. As it stands now, everyone wastes time circling around the pair of large columns in the middle of our standard map; in 4v4arc1, he seems to have pushed those two columns outward from the center, letting teams get down to business... The center is very sparse. Personally, I probably prefer this, but I could see how others may find it barren. A few more rocks or small objects might provide more balance. -Plut

Dunno, my take is that the majority of aggressive/pushing teams wouldn't mind a smaller map -Plut

Welcome back Capt, cya soon!

Was idiosyncrasy from Cosmic Rift? Didn't know that I remember showing them the door in a Ballistics vs idiosyncrasy iml match forever ago; Underlord and 0nethervoid were on that subspace version of the squad. -Plut

I really like 4v4arc1. Possibly the first map I've seen (albeit w/o playtesting) that I like better than the standard map. -Plut

Looking forward to picking up some new games -Plut