Gadianton

2 thoughts 1. The random damage kills me a ton but i still like it. I really like the random shrap as well. The zone is called chaos after all. I would like a good newbie help file explaining random damage. 2. People have played so many years with the current settings i would love to see some good documentation explaining all of the differences between the 2011 and SVS 98 settings. I know the "pro" players know it all, however there is a ton that i don't know. For example playing Saturday i noticed that the reps were stronger. It would be nice to see the 2011 settings the reps were 950, and the svs98 settings the reps are 1200 and then explaining that the svs reps are 22% stronger.

I LOVED the settings over the weekend and i died a ton so people were happy and cheering. i liked going to a private freq, and grabbing two gunners and then fighting big 6 man freqs. at times over the weekend it was a 6 man turret vs a 6 man swarm. good times. Another thought on freq size. For years building a squad has been a pain for the reason that you could only ever get 2-4 squad members ever on one team. freq limits are typically 2-4. With the classic settings a squad could be built really fast because everyone (or most members) from the squad could get on the same freq. i agree with Jen that the lance needs 2 bounces to be worth playing. More greens would be nice. It does take a long time to green before you can play.

not crying. just making a statement.

"weasels with Self-EMP" whats that?

recycling is legal. so get use to seeing me use it a ton.

lol funny video. Tradition.

I totally agree.

No. I let my Mines do my fighting. Its ok if they die.

I just logged into the zone and wow the Mines are now 2 minutes. What a shocker the News file didn't let people know that the Mine Time changed....

Ya and the zone population once again will probably be cut down by 1/3 as well as Hallu continues to mess with the settings to satisfy cry baby hunters who find it hard to kill a turret. I'm guessing that all of Hallu's changes wont help the population. I'm guessing that turrets will just Ship change in open space since when the hunters come after them because they are mad that they are not allowed to Spend hard earned bonus points when they need them. Hmmmm I wonder which Option will make the hunters more Mad? Option A: turret runs away with bonus points, 1 hour later hunter gets to kill turret with 4,000 bounty Option B: every 1/2 hour the turret when out of toys or under pressure ship changes in open space so Hunters Never get a big bounty kill. Building macro to Esq Q and Ship change right now baby......

I'm guessing if hallu cut the EMP bomb damage in 1/2 or if he didn't allow Hunters to use rockets you would have people on the form complaining because it hurts there play style...... thats all i'm doing. Parts of the game that i use are being messed with. You don't have to have an IQ of 200 to see why i and other people who LIKE mines and who like to use bonus points would be unhappy with the recent changes.

I don't think so. The in game bot said "NO bonuses next reset." i dont see how you could earn bonus points if there are no bonuses. i think your link is broken. i clicked on it and it didn't show an image. i get a webpage that says "Want to start a website? Let us help!" I don't know, why don't you play for fun? You rarely ever play. I think you got 50 kills last year? I guess your not having fun.

How is a hunter gunning a newbie down 50-1 any different then me mine reping them. o ya i remember. A hunter will yell and scream in pub chat that the newbie is a %$@$# looser and should go kill them self. Some times i actually let a newbie gun an me and he gets a rush of getting a few kills. I don't see hunters being some kind generous group helping out newbies so get off your high horse. That's why i suggested building 20-30 dumb bots for the newbies to have something to shoot at. If i let the newbie kill me Hallu will accuse me of gifting and BAN me and remove the 2,000 bounty kill from the newbies record. Then the newbie would be REALLY confused.

ok it is worth playing for people who don't care about bonus points. For "some" people who do care about bonus points its not worth it.

Its not worth playing this reset (April 6-20) anyway. Even if biller was up, no one can earn bonus points because hallu has removed them for the next 2 weeks.

Cheese im very interested. do you have a link where i can learn more. website? forum?

You need 3 things. 1. Fresh Meat i was talking to my brother about this issue last summer. he plays a first person shooter game. he and i both feel that for a game to grow you do need a steady flow of new people into a game. as soon as you loose that steady flow of newbies the game begins to die. ok no shockers here. here is the interesting point. the reason why you need new people is what my brother calls the concept of "Fresh Meat". even relatively new people who have been playing a few weeks need some "Fresh Meat"... newbies to kill. Just like in the ocean, there is always some one smaller then you and some one bigger then you in the food chain. The BIG thing that subspace needs is this "fresh Meat" in the food chain. well what do you do if you cant get the new people? its simple you have to artificially create them. What we need is 20-30 bots playing the game at all time. These relatively low intelligent bots programmed to fight in different styles from mining, gunning, and running suicide missions into the nearest ship. This basic building block in the food chain gives REAL newbies some thing to shoot at and to be able to kill. As it is right now, a newbie joins and gets 1 kill and 50 losses fighting pro players. The ocean would die if the bottom of the food chain died, and the same thing has been happening to subspace for years. the bottom of the food chain has been broken for a long time. 2. The client, websites, and game help files are out of date and old. For example we could create some you tube videos for newbies showing them some basic parts of the game. i know its easy for me to download and install however compared to the new games that are out subspace takes a lot of work for a new person to figure out whats going on. 3. Real Meat After you build this basic food chain, simplify the install and setup, we all need to do a huge push to advertise to get REAL people into the game. lets say for example in the month of June we set a goal to put a banner on every website we can, hand out 1,000 flyers, hold LAN parties at peoples houses. we need a huge push as a community to introduce new people to the game. Ok those are my 3 ideas. Let the ripping and complaining and criticizing begin. o and by the way when you get ready to post how building a bot is impossible. its not. i have one built. my bot recognizes its energy level, its current location on the map, direction he is facing, what toys he has. he can use any toy he has and can fire weapons. he can also tell what direction an enemy ship is.

Comment: You used to esc-q out of death. Response: This is not illegal go read the zone website. Snafu and others do it all the time. Comment: You have been known to use multiple PCs to gain an edge on play.(1 was changing freq sizes to increase freq limit) Response: Ya shoot me for bumping up the population so a friend could gun. Don't worry i learned my lesson. I wont be doing that again. Comment: You have used bonus gifts as a way to escape death and not as they were intended. (rabbit) Response: I'm not sure why you cant remember that we went over this issue several times with Sneakers and Sneakers said that it was legal. However for your sake i will kick the dead horse and explain again. 1. Enter subspace 2. type !help bonus 3. Read what the bot tells you about the rabbit bonus..... it says. Rabbit - 1000 bty prize, 1 warp, arena announcement that you have the rabbit bonus (10 Bonuses) Did Gadianton put the 1 warp in there? No, the admins did, and sneakers support it. Then cry baby hunters got all sad when i used it... and got it removed. Comment: You generally bring in a bad vibe to the zone and you act like a big baby. Response: You think so? Well I think most hunters are bigger cry babies then i am. They cry until they get the settings in the zone changed to help their play style. I think crying hunters bring a bad vibe to the zone. I rarely ever even talk in game. Once in a while i come to the forums and see mostly hunters all sitting around patting hallu on the back that modifying the zone to help hunters is a GREAT idea. For example lazy hunters who sit in spec all day waiting for a big bounty to show up cant figure out why in the hell they don't have any bonus points. So what do they do. They cry to hallu, he gets a response from 9 people (most of them are hunters) that cutting bonus points down is a GREAT idea and bam.... he changes the zone. Maybe if the hunters stopped crying and played as many hours as i did they would have more bonus points. Golly as i remember the whole reason why they built in the bonus system was to encourage people to play a ton of hours and then reward then with fun toys. Bottom line: I think there are a lot of people who are sick and tired night after night hunters yelling screaming and crying because they cant kill my turret. They are the REAL cry babies of the zone not I. When you say Gadianton is crying.... thats the one lonely voice standing up saying "hello.... your killing the turret, miners, and gunners over here who play in this zone." its ok just ignore me and the silent other people in the zone who have learned that coming to this forum is a %$#$ wast of time. All that happens is a few select cry baby hunters scream and jump up and down when you say anything that they don't like.

I have seen the light. I have been on the wrong side of the conversation all these years. I'm going to be a hunter from now on. I'm going to turn over a new leaf and be a hunter so that the other hunters will be my friends. I want to be well liked and popular in the zone. Fitting in with the other hunters is now my my greatest desire. Ok now that i am on your team, i have some ideas to help. 1. Make turrets MORE difficult to drive. Those lazy bastards have life to easy. - cut down the speed of turrets. they run to dam much anyway. - make gunners turn rates slower. i hate it when they all point there guns at me at the same time. Turrets are to hard to kill. It's not fair. I'm so mad that they are so hard to kill that I want to throw myself on the ground and punch myself. 2. Remove save zones. Retarded lazy turrets are the only people who use them anyway. I am very mad and upset that the safe zones have been added back to the zone. I was SOOOOOO happy when the zone had no safe zones. I would pay money on Ebay to buy a zone with no safe areas. Why did Hallu add them back? PLEASE take them away! I wanted to sue the turrets for using them yet my mommy told me I couldn't so I didn't. You're lucky my mommy didn't allow me to sue you or I would of! 3. Picking up greens is TOOOOO HARD for hunters. What we need in this zone is an ATM machine. You go up, and shoot the ATM and then my ship will be full of toys. I shouldn't have to work at greening, that's stupid. My mommy thinks it's dumb also. Greens help turrets more then hunters. Remove greens from the zone, hunters don't need them. All i have to do as a hunter is ship change and get a new ship with the toys i want. If i don't get a ship with rockets and burst i just instantly ship change again. As soon as i ship change and get a COOL ship i then rocket the turret and slam into it trying to kill it. However if a turret recycles for toys lets yell and scream and ban them. 4. Lances always seems to kill me, I'm toast when I get around mines, turrets slaughters me, burst crush me and bricks just annoy me. Hallu should get rid of these things! I also hate blue bombs they always take energy away from me. Hallu PLEASE!!!!! get rid of these things and make this zone better! Only allow hunters to use rockets. Its not fair that those stupid turrets get to rocket as well. Turrets have to many toys since they are grouped together. 5. Bring back the Revenge command for hunters. That way when its to hard to kill a turret, hunters can use bonus points to recall a turret inside of a box and burst it. Its a design flaw to have to work for a kill. There should be a way to kill any player we want by just using a bot command and not thinking. A thinking process should not have to take place! It's just not fair that I have to think and be creative in order to kill the turret. 6. Driving a turret is lame and kills the zone. Don't allow this LAME play style to spend bonus points. Why should lame people get to use bonus points? Hunters are the only COOL people in this zone. I asked my mommy and she agreed with me. Hunters don't use Lame Turrets tactics which makes earning Bonus points hard to earn! Hallu should create a bot ships that looks like a small puppy and when hunters kill it Hunters should be given 50 bonus points, and on Sundays hunters should be given free bonus points just for being cool. 7. Hallu should hire staff members to green up big bounties and then ONLY allow me and my cool hunting friends to kill them. This wont be gifting. Think of it as a reward for Being a cool hunter. If you don't do this i have to go into pub chat and scream "TURRETS SUCK SUCK SUCK!!!. I HATE THESE PEOPLE. I WISH THEY WOULD JUST DIE. I HATE YOU!!! I HATE YOU I HATE YOU!!!" and i have to do this over and over and over trying to confuse the turret so i can kill them. On top of this i cant figure out why the turret driver and gunners don't want to talk to me, and this hurts my feelings. Only my mommy talks to me it seems. It's not fair. 8. Waiting. This has got to be one of the lamest parts of the game. I hate spending hours in spec mode waiting for a someone to green up a big bounty. Hallu can write a bot to just text message me and my friends when a big bounty player is in the zone? Then me and all my cool hunting friends can jump in all at once and surprise the turret and kill it. 9. Don't let turrets have any mines. They are all ready over powered as it is. 10. Only allow 1 gunner. That way we can have the same settings as 4v4. With the zone population being low now days a big turret just kills the zone. If turrets only have 1 gunner the 4v4 people will feel at home and will play more. 11. Those lazy gunners are the death of this zone. if they would stop being gunners and only dogfight on there own this would solve the zones problems and the population will sky rocket back up to 200 people. 12. Finely if that jerk Gadianton does start driving turrets again just BAN him. He is bad for the zone anyway. My mom says that If he is gone the zone will be a cool place once again. Please Hallu, fix this zone to help us poor hunters. Sincerely, XX_GadHunter_XX

i prefer weasels with emp bombs that do 1/2 damage. i prefer weasels only have level 1 bombs i prefer weasels didnt ever get rockets. Point is that mines have always lasted for 2 minutes. If you want to mess with the mines why not mess with the Weasels settings and hurt the hunters favorite ship? Cutting the time in 1/2 helps hunters and hurts other play styles. o ya i forgot this is a hunter only zone. all other play styles should be criticized to death, and the settings should be modified to kill them.

Great point nude.

As a mine repping pro.... you have to have at least 4+ mines to get a good mine rep kill. a 3 mine stacks just wont do the job in most cases. So change the setting to 2 or 3 mines and you might as well ban the mine repping play style and tell those people to leave the zone. As it is with Hallu's cutting the mine life in 1/2 (he cut the time from 2 minute to 1 minute of how long a mine stays alive and didnt tell anyone for weeks) he has already made it very difficult to even get a mine rep. It makes it even HARDER to do solo. only a turret with multiple people can even get a mine stack down fast enough to have time to try and get a mine rep. you have to lay a full stack of mines, recharge your energy to be safe, and get someone near your mine stack in 60 seconds before the mines disappears. O and by the way his logic that this modification was to help newbies... total bull*&^$#$#$. Mines are the NUMBER 1 way that new people to the zone can even get a kill. A new person enters the zone he isn't going to be able to out fly a pro player, however he can lay mines and then hope and pray he gets a kill. But now its very hard for a newbie to get 4 mines down and try to get a mine rep before they start to disappear on him. i think its interesting that lately hallu is changing the mine life time, the number of mines that can be dropped and other turret settings. however he isn't running around cutting the EMP damage of the weasel in 1/2, or removing fast fire rate from ship 8. hmmm its almost like he is targeting a play style.... hmmmmm

Hunters don't go after everyone. They don't chase down 50 bounty players... unless there name is "Gadianton". Hunters look for the big bounty players and go after them. Some times i hunt. Typically i lay mines and wait for the big bounty players to run into my mines. Chasing someone is dangerous and i could DIE which makes me cry http://forums.ssgn.net/public/style_emoticons/default/cray.gif

I have 6+ people every night private messaging me and calling me on skype asking to gun on me. Typically i can only have 2 gunners and so i see 4+ people sitting on the side line and not playing at all. I wish there were more turret drivers out there for people to gun on. I know this will come as a SHOCK to you but there are some people who don't like to hunt. There are SOME people who actually like to gun. If this zone hadn't demonized turret drivers and gunners MAYBE you would have more targets to hunt. As it is all of the screaming and crying by the admins and hunters is so childish you are driving people away and killing the zone. I have talked to many turret drives over the years and they give up driving because they get so sick and tired of all of the hatred. Luckily for you i have a thick skull and don't care what the hunters and admins think of my play style.