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Lol, another setting change. Why post a poll? Why even post this thread? It's not like you'll do anything with it. History shall repeat itself once again, and with that, people will start complaining again.

I bet that screenshot is faked

WTF..! No i haven't, stop f*cking saying i've said these things when i have not! Religion is just one cause, others are nationalism, money, land, race/tribal. I haven't ever told anyone WW1 and WW2 were caused by religion for the simple reason that they weren't! WW I&II were caused by the Germans Maka, stop watching the movie Tomb Raider, there's no such thing as the Illuminati <_<

Rofl Net

Btw, the idea sucks

Sigh, when will you guys ever learn? By now, you guys should know that the Staff doesn't listen to idea's, no matter how good they are. It's against their policy to listen to what the players want.

Veggie

Amen

The reason why threads like this are still made, is because the staff doesn't do anything about it.

OMG! OMG! YOU GOT ME THERE! OUCH! LOW BLOW! Haha Vile' date=' seriously. 11-2/7-2. That's 13 votes/9 votes. OMG! THAT MUST BE ABOUT HALF OF THE ZONE PLAYERS WE HAVE! This zone has a big problem with it's forum. About what, 50-100 players? post on this 17th Parallel forum. Look at 17th's player database. It's WAY MORE. 13/9 votes is NOTHING compared to the player database of 17th. I lose? Whatever you say Vile, but keep in mind that this zone doesn't exist of 13 players. It's more like 1-5% of the total zone population. I'll quote a few things, hold on. Yes' date=' the 3 of you are absolutely right. You do what the Majority of the zone, namely 13 and 9 players, want. Good job! Keep up the good work! And you think that by totally ignoring these things, the zone will suddenly become exciting again?

Amen. I notice this in a lot of other games, too. For example The Getaway and Dead To Rights. 'Oh look, this and that is what the players want, so we'll add that.' A month or so later it's the same again 'Oh look, they want this and that too, why don't we just use that, too?' Same goes for 17th. You get tons of different things, but it doesn't work properly. You put a little bit of everything in it, so you can't really work everything out so it works fine. Think of that, the next time that you will change something again (which will probably be very soon). Very mature reply. As Maka said' date=' if you actually listen to what we have to say, you'll get a lot less of such topics. You don't get these extra players by changing settings. It's more likely to lose players that way. You never talk about the settings. You never ask players what they want. No, you just change it without thinking, quite often without much success. Remember, 17th has to compete with zones like Trench Wars and Death Star Battle, both good zones with A LOT of European players (the ones usually playing at noon EST). I know Telson' date=' but you're one of few, if not, the only one.

'17th Parallel: Fast-paced action. Fight for enemy territory while protecting your own' ROFL, RIGHT! Can anyone please change the zone's description? I'll tell you why. Wednesday, 24th of August, 2004 I enter 17th, noticing the new bounty things. Because I was really bored, I started playing pub. After a few minutes, I notice that at least half of the players (there were about 40 players) was just running around, greening so their bounty could get higher. I spot a warbird and fly towards him. I fire a couple of bullets, so he warps (don't worry, I won't use names, Acid). I think I flew around for about 2 more minutes, then specced because I got bored. Fast-paced action? RIGHT! Friday, 27th of August, 2004 I got a bit bored of NFS Hot Pursuit 2, so I launch SS. I enter 17th Parallel and have to download a map. Sigh, yet another map change. But why? Why do you still keep changing the map? Are you guys so bored that you need to build maps to put up 1 day and then let it fade away? What is the point of this? You never use a single map that you put up. You just run some stupid poll that says 'do you like the new map' and then completely ignore the poll result. Or are the results so negative that everyone says 'No, we don't?'. Anyway, the donwload ends, and I enter in Javelin. 20 players in the zone, only 6 playing. I fly around, looking for enemies. Ah, there goes Raem. I chase him, fire bullets at him. He runs away, greening and greening and greening, until he warps away. Rofl, you have got to be kidding me. I asked myself 'So this is the new 17th?' I really don't hope so, because otherwise, it's just sad. Before the 'attempt' to attract more players by completely ruining the zone settings, 17th was cool. Everyone had fun in 17th. Javs were hunting down Lancasters, Warbirds were turreting with Levi's, Terriers were chasing the weasels, and the weasels were killing the Javs, if not killed by the Spiders or Sharks first. Look at 17th now: players crying that the Jav is overpowered, A Leviathan with a portal, the Weasel that is nothing but annoying, players running around, greening and warping. I have played 17th for over 3,5 years, and have always loved this zone. The leagues were cool and the settings were cool. But now, after 3,5 years, I have lost interest in this zone. If this doesn't change, I'm gonna quit this zone when TT-League ends. 17th was a cool zone, but it is completely -*BAD WORD*-ed up by Upper Staff.

yeah, the truth can really hurt :-/

pff, impossible :-/

sigh, newbie Manus is an old Vet of 17th