Aishi

Why the !@#$%^&* would you do that? Why the !@#$%^&* would i waste money on a USELESS item that doesnt make any difference whatsoever, only to replace it with something useful 10min later?

There's nothing wrong with privs being gods in minibase. You're either just really stupid, or really bored if you decide to flag in a minibase.

What happened to the new item system you were designing? Do not tell me it's going to be next reset.

I could answer that, but i wont, because it would have me reveal information i dont think mods want the players to know

How is it to slow? .?iteminfo combo mount +------------------+ | Combo Mount | +-----------+------+-----+-------+----------+-----+------------------+--------------------------------+ | Buy Price | Sell Price | Exp | Ships | Max | Ammo | Item Types | | $50000 | $20800 | 5000 | 1234567 | 1 | None | -20 Repeller, Signature, -15 Bullet Burst, -10 Thor's Hammer, Mount | +-----------+------+-----+-------+----------+-----+------------------+--------------------------------+ | This grants one of every Subspace item except a brick. This mount requires ammo for bursts, repels, thors, and rockets. | +------------------+----------------+-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Property Name | Property Value | +------------------+----------------+ | repelmax | +1 | | decoy | +1 | | burstmax | +1 | | portal | +1 | | thormax | +1 | | rocket | +1 | | decoymax | +1 | | rocketmax | +1 | | portalmax | +1 | +------------------+----------------+ Notice the rocketmax +1

Because the item system fails not a lot of people like the new item system.

Thats pretty awesome.

d1, thats cause you dont play

Why are we making more items for Unix to abuse, seeing as how shes the only one that can actually afford it.

QFT

Omni, you do realize that 90% of maplestory players are 8 years old?

I think what he means is that you buy the summon, and the summon makes you be able to summon to lancs

Well, i said that used one of those, and I am !@#$%^&*uming that we are talking about center javelins but I'll add that in right now. =) And my jav goes almost the same speed as when i dont use afterburners at all. =x Anyway, I still think that this would be a good idea, because at least now, People could have SOME differences in their ship builds. To be honest, i know both klammy's and f3ar-evil's warbird builds, and i can say that they are almost identical. Many people also use similar ship builds. And I didnt mention this in the original post, but I will edit it right after i finish. I would suggest to use a seperate section for the 3 items, or to make it a mount, like the old HS did. I would also move Maneuvering fins back to armor, and Simply remove the +2 speed from tunnel runner. Maxwell could stay as it is. Anyway, just consider it =) P.S. Revised as of now =d

Well, I've talked to a few friends from before the reset, and they've inspired me to make this topic. Note that I am well aware that other people might have already mentioned this in other topics, although I am too lazy to read them. Its basically what the topic says. Should we bring back those 3 items? I think so. This is because of the lack of diversity in the zone. I'm not talking about who has what ship, but rather, what items are on those ships. For example, at this time, most centering /bountying Javelins choose at least one of these four items (If not more than one): a) Maxwell Infusers b ) Power Strip c) Maneuvering fins d) Tunnel Runner Most of the other addons are useless to the Javelin, not including the occasional stealth shaper. This makes it possible For almost everybody to guess what the javelin's ship build is. If they are faster than person1 but slower than person2, then they have a build including these items. This type of HS is not fun for me. What i found the most fun about HS was the amount of diversity. For example, before the reset, 10 javelins could be using the same Sublight drive, and it would still be *nearly* impossible to guess what their ship build is. This is because there are many different ways to combine the 3 Items Extra Speed, Extra Thrust, and extra Rotation. Now, what I am suggesting is that you bring back these 3 items. This would cause an increase of diversity, as well as give ships more choices as to What they can buy. This would also let people customize their ship even more. For example, as an average HS player, my javelin has Flash drive as my sublight drive and Maneuvering fins and tunnel runner as my 2 addons. My thrust is CRAZY, and my speed is decent, but my maxthrust is just slightly above average, and my maxspeed is below par. But the problem is, I love using afterburners, but I also want a lot of thrust. I don't like retro rockets on my javelin because I am MUCH slower than the average warbird. If we had the three items that i talked about, then i could simply sell Tunnel Runner and buy Extra speed. I dont want to spend an extra 150k on buying an extra addon, yet if i don't, I am much slower than others while using afterburners. What might work is that you could move Maneuvering fins back into Armor, and remove Tunnel Runner's +2 speed , and add the 3 items named in the !@#$%^&*le to either Addons or Mounts. I would suggest mounts, because it would be more similar to what we had before. This way, we can also have more addons. To be concise, I can understand that Maneuvering fins, Tunnel runner, and Maxwell Infusers were meant to replace the 3 items above. However, I feel that this is not enough. The difference is that Tunnel runner increases speed with no penalty of thrust, but has no maxspeed bonus, while Maneuvering fins does have extra maxthrust, but does not have a speed penalty. However, Tunnel runner doesn't give maxspeed, so for Flash Drive users like myself, There is almost NO difference between my Maxspeed and my speed without using afterburners. I have 6 speed and 0 maxspeed, so they are basically the same. I'm pretty sure that many people would appreciate the return of these 3 items, including myself.

Unix have you ever had a jav?

Falco (owns marth)

Flaws: 1.It wont work 2.^ 3.^ 4.^ 5.^

1.Point-defense 2.Radiating coils 3.2m items 4.Flash Drive Look, lets face it. These items arent worth the sig spot, nor are they worth the price. 1. I think i only know 1 person in hs who actually uses Pointdefense, and thats Relos. His lanc is gud though =D, although id rather have omega or another sig. 2. How many people do you know that have radiating coils? A lanc maybe, or a rusher? Radiating coils used to be used in center, for shrap damage, but now, its not used at all because its a sig, and everybody would rather get ampere or omega. 3. 2m items are dumb right now. And anybody that can read will agree with me. Lets take Temporal core as an example. 1 recharge and 1 energy higher than ampere, for 20 times the price. Literally. AND its a sig. Who the heck would actually buy that? Ok. Il explain that to you smart-buttocks that will say yes just to contradict me. It is a rhetorical question. And if you don't know what that means, it means IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ANSWERED. Ok. Anyway, back on topic. If I'm going to pay 20 times or 40 times the price of a normal sig, it better be worth it. And so far, +1 in recharge and energy (im still using temporal core as an example) is not going to help a whole lot. If you didnt make the 2mil items sigs, people might actually BUY THEM Think of the possibilities! An item ACTUALLY worth spending 2mil on! 4.I think i know 1 person out of everybody that plays hs, who even considered using flash drive. It is basically the old retro rockets, and i can !@#$%^&*ure you, Flash drive is NOT worth 100k, nor is it worth the sig spot. Conclusion: These Items are not worth spending 100k, 75k, 2mil, and 100k on(respectively), and very few people use them because they are not worth the sig spots nor the money.

I agree with the SoP rules, but energy scanner should be allowed. If this is truly a "duel tournament", then it will be 1v1, and If someone is stupid enough to spam enough guns and miss untill they are at "low energy", then they deserve to lose that duel. What omni said is about right

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@Unix Bad idea. if i had a decent lanc and i didnt want to lanc, or if i was the one that got flags, and also one of the only 2 lancs in the arena at the time, i DEFINITELY would not want to be evened, especially if im put on a bad team. you're basically forcing people to lanc, and if it were up to me, i wouldnt lanc for the other freq even if it meant increased prox range and stuff.

Well, i can tell you i wont miss this reset, and i dont know if im going to be here for the next. Id rather have it be a super zone in base and the old center settings than a grinding zone where basing and centering sucks

to me, i think of hyperspace as some zone to play when im bored of everything else.

^ And in addition, I'm especially lagging now.... *COUGH* ASSS SERVER What is this new 4200 ms Im receiving This is outrageous >=( Anyway, i think op2 is right... Even the rush weasel era needed more skill than this...At least you had to time your reps, rather than spam items and hope you can kill someone. HS has become a lot more grindier, where the people that play 24/7 are better than people that play 5 hours a week or something like that. I feel this shouldnt be the case. Pros should always prevail =) "It all just boils down to... the zone was fine before... change is good, but not always." Once again, ^