wzlsare fine leave them as they are weasels with cyclone are , in my opinion, use less for centering cause their nrg drains too fast and they have bad aim leaving them wide open. it is fair to have one or too really good rushing ships (shark and wzl) and their extreme speed bursts are countered by their lack of armour and nrg compared to levis with only moderate speed [without rockets], plus their size compared to sharks. any team with decent aim should be able to hit the wzls as they come in the close confines of a base and if they are foolish enough to cyclone, own them with a short burst of fire. front ships rep the wzls back as they come and back ships constantly fire. the base should be pretty much mined in and im my experience, shrap mines own wzls. the only way a wzl would be able to kill both lancs of the opposing team is that the lancs are critically weakoned or undefended. the bursts of a weasel should be absorbed long before they reach the back lanc of a team. thors should not be a problem as is they are gonna kill sumone, they would have to hit weak opponents, which would mean your own team is sumwhere near too. the only ships thors can kill are wbs and javs and those dont belong in bases anyway. thor storms are quite obvious and i doubt that noone would have the reflexes to repel an oncoming wave of purple, gyrating micky mouse shaped balls. if wzls are nerfed then you would be destroying an effective rushing ship and in that case, you would have to put rockets back on levi XD. of course, on the other havd: i have no experience in basing whatsoever except for the mnibase, in which i own wzls for tea. ps. i just want rockets back on levi pps . im new so can you see this post? ppps. i hope you can pppps. whose bot is the hs bank? apparently its not cer's