jds, :wave!@#$%^&*: when do you plan on growing up, and getting a life? To start you would need to stop talking about me..... .....To be honest, i have never heard of the cars 1,3 and 4 but they are nice. EDIT: and if you absolutely must, there is a section for that !@#$%^&*...does Spam and TRASH right a bell?