Hi, pretty sure next to nobody on this forum knows who I am. I'm a mod in EG, currently playing under the alias Siren (formerly as julia). Not sure if that's even important, but whatever. Onto what I actually came here to say... You guys here on the ss.co forums seem to be in the know about what has been going on with the ssc and what steps have been taken to bringing new blood into the game. I know a while back someone from the ssc (polix?) was in contact with people from Valve trying to get the Continuum client listed on steam and were unfortunately denied. I had a couple questions regarding this: 1. What was the reason behind Continuum's denial? Was it IP licensing issues? Or something more practical like access to the client source code? No commercial backing? Unclear ownership issues? 2. I understand the last attempt to deal with Steam was done so before their release of the "greenlight" program. Has anyone attempted to resubmit Continuum as a candidate for this new program? If not, is it worth attempting again? 3. I understand there are a couple new games in development by members of this community inspired by subspace, and I have a couple questions for them. a) How close do your games mimic subspace currents ability? Could we recreate zones like EG and TW easily? Or are we stuck with stock settings of the dev's choose? Third party zone owners? Will people eventually be able to host/run their own zones? I only ask as a lead in to my next question: c)I know the java ss client has a working alpha out that (at least aesthetically) seems to mirror subspace well enough, I haven't tried it personally, just watched a few videos etc... Have far into development is this? Anywhere close to a finished product? If so, do you think there is a possibility for zone owners to come together to agree to move games/clients again? If so, would it then be worth it to submit a browser game to Steam's greenlight program? I am a woman of practical approaches to problems and I realize subspace has no shortage of problems to deal with. Not the least of which is its dwindling population. I've seen many a hypothesis on the why and how this is happening; in my personal opinion (and feel free to disagree with it) I think, more than anything, it has to do with the fact that people simply do not know where are here. There are lots of successful online games that sport as good if not worse graphics than subspace. Good game play is good game play regardless of the aesthetics. That said, it's with that philosophy that I am approaching my own personal attempts to help bring in new blood. But I wanted to check in with you lot as I had these questions bouncing around. I have my own ideas that I will put into motion BUT if there is a possibility of a "new" game and a second mass exodus of zones from one client to another, then it would be better to concentrate my efforts on this new game as opposed to Continuum. Thoughts/concerns/suggestions/comments are all welcome. p.s. i humbly suggest a name for the next chapter in subspace's history: Subspace: Saga ;P