the fees will more than likely point me away from uni, i should be applying next year for a place. but the only thing is, do i realy want to live my life after uni paying off debts? not realy, not for an extimated 25years. The actual value of a deg is redusing, too many people have them now more than ever, experiance is the only real way of getting anywere now. if i was an employer looking for someone, for example a sales manager, i would not look at the fact an application has a degree, i'd first look at the practical aspects, if you have a degree lets say, but the person has never used a computer, come up with practical things, never lived on his/her own two feet, but has a degree in maths.... and another has got full A levels and has been working, and has managed to stand on his or hers own two feet, i'd be more interested in the 2nd. you might have the mind, but do you have the manual dexteraty. the tought of a degree making you walk strate into a well paid job, is in most cases a fantacy.