Actually, if spiders wish to spam Pulse Lasers, they need to get Mezon Capacitor, which gives them only 1800 energy each, which is actually rather low for a ship as large as a Spider is. Other large ships like Leviathans and Lancasters typically sport energies as high as 3500 and 3000 each, the former of which is almost two times the energy of a single Spider.   Alternatively, if a Spider wishes to get more energy, they can get up to 3000 energy which is achieved with a ZPM. In this case they are no longer able to spam Pulse Lasers indefinitely because of the 0 recharge on a ZPM and because Spiders cannot buy a H2 Ramscoop to boost recharge.   So I would like to submit that the above quoted argument is void.      1800 energy is ALOT of energy. think of what wzls can do with tokamak, 1300 energy and still having to use alot of there recharge with thrusters. and, as ive been saying, spiders can STACK. 2-3 spiders together make it ALOT harder to kill than 3 warbirds doing the same thing. Why do u think turrets are so successful against smalls ships? they dont have good thrust or speed and are usually using mezon spiders so they don't have alot of health vs bombs. but they have SPAM. they STACK. u cant get close because of the number of shots and have enough energy to finish off the turret. ITS THE SAME THING WITH MULTIPLE SPIDERS. this isnt a hard concept, but some people love to ignore it.   to your 'solutions', all but the shark require TIME, where another person in center comes along and kills you and guess what, the spider survives. if it was 1v1, sure, but in center there are MORE than one person trying to kill u. also, if u got another ship following u and u know the first thing about how to fly a ship with no thrust you will realize u can bounce against a wall and force him to back off or kill him 95% of the time.    you dont want spider changed cuz guess what ship u always use............ wana take a guess? think REAL hard.     also, try using ot+ extra rot, i have it on my spider cuz i set spider up for turreting and it turns so fast i can track a warbird flying around the edge of my ship.