Sigh, this is sooooo 2 months ago. Ok. to set the record straight. Keira/Stukie whatever was not fired for not hosting bots. Infact she was not fired at all. I had given her temp. sysop access to make things easier for her work on our TWcore. I, not Ace, decided to take that power away from all non-sysops affiliated with our zone. The bots thing, I told her we removed sysop, as well as all other mod powers from ALL Devs, simply to streamline things through Ne0 (Our head of development, also a sysop) I did this simply to regulate what was going on with zone development, we quickly had an out of control situation with several Devs working on several different things and not communicating with us, or each other. The plan all along with the TWcore was to host it on the SSCC server, so it would be online 24/7. When I told Keira her powers were gone but I still wanted her to remain a dev and work on the bot, but to send it to myself, or Ne0 so we could get loaded to the server. So then I'm accused of using her and trying to steal her code, and tossing her aside once we get what we want and not giving her any credit... So I then say ok, we're not doing this, I offered several compromises including letting her have Mod powers, but that wasn't good enough. So I then said over and over again for days we would cut all ties, thank you for your work but we will start over without you, and set up our own TWcore (which we did, and its currently hosted on SSCC, just like we planned) Ace had nothing to do with any of this, not that that fact will matter to anyone these days, but that is what happend with the firing/bot thing. As far as the netbanning from candygirl, I don't have a clue on that one, I wasn't involved in it, I'm not a lvl1 BanG op, so whatever on that one. Flame on.