Ah yes i see where your comming from now. I had forgotten about that. You know I see that as you guys trying to get the world to give you attention. Thats probably really offensive to you, i'm sorry and maybe not accurate at all. And besides our countries values are different. I will look forward to your re-evaluation, although by then you might have to email me cus i might not still be on this. I think Australia's involvement in Iraq was based on Australia's alliegance(sp?) with the US. The US did a lot for Australia in WW2 and our defense is still tied to the US. We have 235 million muslims living in an unstable country right next door. Sure...they may not have an air force or navy, but one day they might. Australia on the other hand is a country of 19 million peeps who like to surf and have bbqs and stuff like that. So I think the Australian governments policy is to scratch Uncle Sam's back coz we might ask him to scratch ours some day. The main way that this was achieved was by Australia providing a small but substantial contribution that would have hopefully convinced uncommitted nations that there really was a 'coalition of the willing'. Its like saying 'hey...look...we are willing to put our bbq tongs down and fight for freedom....How about you cheese eating surrender monkeys pull your finger out too?' Canada on the other hand has the benefit of living next door. Who'd mess with Canada when your next door neighbour has more nukes than everyone else combined? So Canada can afford to sit back and take it easy and just be a moral crusader - which is fine by me. The world needs more of 'em. By the way. In what way do you see the values of Canada and Australia as different? Monte I can understand the way you aussies are thinking towards Iraq. It dosn't surprise me that i'm wrong. I'm glad i'm wrong. Although you mentioned that we can afford to sit back while the USA handles things. Our view on Iraq is different to America. We don't like war and don't want to jump into it if we have to. (it costs millions and jean chretien already voluteered us to peacekeep afghanistan, we can't handle War and the peacekeeping missions were on) If the UN decides that we should go to war then we will back the UN and go to war. Although we might be friends with the US we don't always see eye to eye. We aren't sitting back and letting the US do our 'dirty work for us', its just we don't agree and its more affordable to keep out of it.