Im sorry to hear that our mods handled this all wrong. Xter, i never thought i had to say this but i acutaly agree with you on this one. Now for things said in here: Bots are eventualy going to be decreased to 2 in public. We where currently focusing on public arena with V3 but we will eventualy go to sub arena's aswell. As for the staff, yeah they handled this all wrong and handled some things wrong in the past aswell. But for as far as ive heard some have some personal things going wrong, and i can understand that youll handle things diffrent then. And about jericho, he doesnt do much indeed. But he does host alot for us. (Bots, test zones, name it). And he acutaly listens to what players want and let us do what we things is better for DS. Unlike vili who only wanted what HE liked. The evening of players should be fixed aswell, I recoded the evener.dll so it evens the last person to enter the team (and exclude flag carriers if you want). I think you guys on this forum have to give us a chance tho. LT, TJ and me worked hard on DS v3 to get it even better then it used to be and make it be attractive for you aswell. We also removed a realy large part of all the bans that where made to give everyone a new chance. And Apache, idk what you have against me. But yeah i love you to........ Have fun in Desert Storm, - Witchie NL (DS v3 Bot coordinator)