I say give Delic the HSysop. While you might not agree with everything he says, he actually cares about the zone, and has the ideas to change it. The staff since DN has added NOTHING to the zone since they took over. They put in the same settings as pre-complex settings and let the post DN semi-resurgence dwindle to an unplayable joke of a zone. The worst that could happen: ridiculous changes and you loose the 10-20 loyal players that havn't given up/stopped caring/don't laugh at the fact that 20 people in your zone is considered "good population". More likely scenario: Veteran player brings new ideas for the zone, actually works to make it happen. When said changes are made, tells his e-friends about it, they tell theirs, zone is good, they stay, old pop comes back, etc. MOST likely scenario: This thread/post will get deleted/edited, nothing in the zone will change, and I'll laugh every time I see single digits to the right of 17th Parallel. ANYTHING is better than the worthless abortion 17th is now. EDIT: I almost forgot, they did put in a credit bot!!!!