I think that 17th has a large enough playerbase to start up again if it was re-vamped, but into a map/game people like, there are PLENTY of people that would like to play 17th there is just noone ever in there....Also, for the rumble map someone (cubs or cord) made a bot which was pretty sweet, you could choose which game to play in the same arena. But, putting that bot in now would be pointless as IMO as telson said, Put it out of its misery or REDO THE ZONE!. Ffs MIKE, Let someone who know what players want do it...