First of all, javwar and rumble SHOULDN'T be called events. Those 2 sub arenas are involved into league matter which is why pub often dies beacuse of them. People preffer to get some practice and better warm up on javwar, rumble then in pub, which makes those better and skill requierful. That's why I'd try to do some progress on making them albe to start for ANYONE. Just some easy bot commands, like !cap ( Javwar - Becomes captain of a freq ) !own ( Owns the bot and depends on team names, arena lock, doors, start ) !pick ( Invites player into freq ) etc... I'll try seeking the older version of 4v4 Prem-bot which conists of commands like that. That'd make zone easier and even everything is more cool with bots... In another case, Id decrease the intensity of starting other events like sbl, dodgeball. Honestly, I really dislike events which arent based on basic zone settings. But if people like them, then so be it. Anyways, most of the " new " people to 17th can hit esc+a to fither see other sub-arenas. I can't play 17th(or even chaos) pub for longer that 10 minutes, Im kinda sick of vulching and laming and this place is kinda too easy... Env