Kilo

Thanks D1 DB is back

You are grasping at the weakest straws you can find.I'm pretty sure we're following that pretty clearly and that's been explained in this thread. But since you don't seem to understand: by joining SSC, server operators are, at their discretion, including not being netbanned as a condition to play.I hardly can give two damns about Canadian law, if there is a Canadian server or zone operator out there, they might. I doubt Canadian law is much different than American on the topic of allowing private establishments to kick people out. Not very well played there. You apparently didn't realize the First Amendment being referenced there is the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. Secondly, you apparently didn't realize that Subspace zone and server operators are neither federal nor state governments.

Lone Outlaw, that's nice, but unfortunately that's still not a justification (also you are wildly speculating anyway.) I could just as easily speculate that the person doing this was doing it because they wanted to kill SS off and have people find their alternate game instead, or just that the person was frankly insane and was slighted by someone who wasn't even an op. If you are not just, you have no voice in a civilized society, and whatever message you are trying to send will be ignored. That is why physical-world terrorists are futile as well and little more than violence machines. It's far more accurate to say SSC is its own establishment. It's an exclusive franchise with many different locations with their own flavor (although probably anyone can join, it's up to the existing establishment to allow it.) Level 1 banG ops are the authorized bouncers to this establishment and can ban you from all locations. Your argument about anything related to the concept of "public" is invalid because "private" means "not public" and your implication that it is illegal to deny service to people that say things you don't like is also false and a red herring. If you don't believe me, why don't you start testing your "rights" in your local stores and see how they treat you. You may have been banned before but you have the option of just not returning to some zone you think is shitty that bans you for a reason you deem to be unjust. That is your right. But it is their right to determine what is a bannable offense. Edit: clarified my meaning

Lone Outlaw: Sorry, but I'm going to have to stop you right at the point you said "every right."That is disturbingly out of touch with reality, and outright incorrect.If you kick someone out of your establishment, that is your right. If you attack someone's establishment, you are by definition not within your rights. You can say all you want about them, but you cannot attack them. So basically.. continuing this physical-world analogy: I just kicked you out of my business. You then hijack a bunch of cars and park them in front of all of my driveways so no one can get in to the business. It doesn't matter why I kicked you out, you're still in the wrong. I'm not the one that created the shitstorm, you are. So long as I am not breaking any laws, I have the right to do whatever I want in my establishment and it is not for anyone else to decide, or to retaliate against my establishment (or me) because they don't like it.You are talking about "abilities," not "rights."That said I don't ban a lot of people. But if I do, they have no justification to attack me or my property or an internet server even if I banned them for a bad reason or no reason at all.

HZ should auto-update if you've updated it in the last several years, the auto-DNS thing is pretty cool. Hyperspace unfortunately wasn't using it but it should be on directory now.

Everything is back up, but you'll have to download the zone info from the directory again. Also the DB isn't available yet, so it's not really everything.

So yeah, the server rebooted and Hyperspace didn't come online, and then a day or so later the DDoS hit SSCE. Hyperspace can probably come online tonight.

My item set (or heavy influence) existed before ammo and after ammo, and ammo was not around that long in the grand scheme of things. That is all! Also Hyperspace circa asss 1.1 was pretty sick too. I think Hyperspace is due for another rebirth.