Ok, after some extensive testing, the levi is still over powered x10. Anyway, some things must be changed, the bounce set at 255 is way too high, it makes basing ridiculous, its going to be 2 lancs and 3 levs just firing at the entrance from way far back. Theres no way to get to the levs, and reps dont even work, the bombs just bounce right back, and for a ship thats supposed to be heavy in shrapnel, you have to actually hit somebody first. the bounce is just way too high, changing other things would still make it unfair. the problem is that if it were set to one or two, the rof is too high, it would still be 3 levs just firing towards center spamming it with shrapnel. The entire thought of the lev needs to be rethought, my suggestion (like anyone will listen) is that keep the shrapnel amount, but decrease rof, lower bullets to l1, and change the bomb bounce to less than 3. So enough talk of the levi. The weasel is now a very good ship, even with the shrapnel reduced (I sold mine entirely) I found that it could do well 1 on 1. there is only one problem with it that I see keeping it from being totally fair. after you shoot a bomb there is too long of a time until you can shoot anything again, you can hit someone with emp but by the time you can shoot them again theyve lost its effects. Other than that is seems balanced to the other ships (except the lev, but duh to that) The javelin, the other highly debated ship, has its own problems. The bullets are a much better weapon on the javelin now. in a 1 on 1 test the javelin was able to do much better using only its l2 bullets. Occaisionally a bomb would be used, but that was only because of distane. I personally like the jav as it stands now, but as for what should be done to it, I think the bullet rof should be slightly slower and the bomb rof faster. other than that, no complaints. The warbird just confounds me now, it was once "fast and agile" but has since lost the agile side of that. I like how it is otherwise, it seems to have lost its efficiancy as a fighter, but it seems to be decent for balling as it is smaller than the lanc, but faster than everything else. to make it more fair I would say reduce top speed and increase thrust a little, when going at full speed its impossible to turn around or dodge anything. I havent tested the other ships, but from what ive seen the terr has taken the warbirds spot as "fast and agile" the spider seems balanced and good, the lanc is just waaaaay too fast for its own good. The shark is just cool now, its not any better or worse really, but I like it. Edit: the weasels firing rate with bombs is ok, im just crazy or something... O.o It was the length of the emp that was holding it back, the bombs just dont seem to do enough damage