I hear you cypher. ssdude1> need website, help plz? ssdude2> can you make me a site? ssdude3> want to rework my site, want to help out? ssdude4> got a little dev project going, you in? client1> i like the design but i want this this this this and this feature can you have that done by next friday? my mom> You're living here free of charge. Get off your -*BAD WORD*-, away from that -*BAD WORD*- computer and do something around the -*BAD WORD*- house for me! It wouldn't kill you to vacuum once a week or something! [EDIT] No offense to those who have discussed websites with me. I have offered my services to a few, and I'm not referring to those few in the above little ditty. I do get at least four or five newbies a week, people whom I've never heard of, asking me to make them a personal site though. Talk about mother-*BAD WORD*-ing annoying. Some of the dev projects I don't mind working on, but I usually end up working on them with people who don't know what they are doing and just get in the way or ask stupid questions. And then there's this one client I'm working with (Yeah, a paying customer! Woo! =p) who basically wants me to write a ridiculously complex CMS for the website I designed for him, and he wants the site to launch a week from now. Do I look like superman? Okay, enough ranting. -*BAD WORD*- that felt good though. :] [/EDIT]